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carthage
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Cool story. But who has she beaten that would make her a better duelist than Luminara by feats?


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Revan's Master.


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She might be above her in terms of force ability, but who has she beaten that places her above Luminara fighting evenly with Ventress?

Just curious.


Well Traya for one, and Atris.

Atris a confirmed master of Juyo - Requiring many mastered forms - a renowned swordsman, And was beaten in her own DS Nexus by Suriks' Lightsaber skill alone.

But yeh, Traya was more powerful in the force, meaning she too was bested due to the exiles saber abilities. Traya being "A master of Lightsaber combat"

Plus, y'know, mastering every form.

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carthage
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Fair enough. Traya has virtually no saber feats though, she's more of a force powerhouse. I don't know if that'd elevate her to anything more than a high tier 7 . You'll have to argue it out with others. But for the most part is that an accurate assessment?


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Not so sure why people want a tier list so badly. Our opinions differ so differently that a tier list would serve almost no purpose.


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Its so you stop reporting people, if you don't want to contribute DMB don't bother posting in here. If this gets approved and stickied by the mods, you'll have nothing to complain about.


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Only characters I care about their placement is Revan and Cade, and both are tier 8 duelists. Revan is a tier 9 Force-user.


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Originally posted by carthage
Fair enough. Traya has virtually no saber feats though, she's more of a force powerhouse. I don't know if that'd elevate her to anything more than a high tier 7 . You'll have to argue it out with others. But for the most part is that an accurate assessment?


To be honest anything is a start with this Forum.

She's got the feats of single handedly slaying a legion of elite Sith Assassins, the Storm Beast, she could learn her opponents form in moments. Echani battle precognition etc.

I'd put her at least at 8. And yes while Traya is a force powerhouse, that's the point. The exile broke through a gap that large in force abilities, and a Nexus, with sabers alone.


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Does anyone else have any objection to Revan being a tier 8 duelist? (other than Neph)


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I place Mace, Dooku and Anakin as tier 9.
Revan is in my high tier 8.

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Tier 8: Lightsaber Skill


1. Darth Maul/Asajj Ventress/Exar Kun/General Grievous/Jaina Solo/Obi Wan

2. Revan/Ulic Qel Droma/Mara Jade Skywalker/Agen Kolar/Kit Fisto/Plo Koon

3. Darth Malgus/Kyle Katarn/Cade Skywalker??/Darth Krayt??

*Is Cade really an equal to Krayt in lightsaber skill?


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Jaina Tier 9 (Low) IMO.

But yeh, if Revan is tier 8, so is Surik.


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She fought an injured Caedus, and had Luke helping her in their first fight. Skillfully, she isn't better than Maul or Kun in my opinion, I know Ancientpower, Angelalex, and others might think differently.

But if she fought Caedus without assistance (she admitted inferiority to him in the force in Invincible) she would've lost.


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Oh Kun should be higher too, in my eyes.

But yes, I put her higher than Maul.


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Her fights with Caedus were partially circumstantial, I don't know if I'd go any higher than apex tier 8 for her. If you can argue otherwise maybe, but they're both comparably powerful/skillful. Some people wanted to put her tier 9 on CV, but I'd like to see more support for that.


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Jaina is overrated.


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Her fights with Caedus were partially circumstantial, I don't know if I'd go any higher than apex tier 8 for her. If you can argue otherwise maybe, but they're both comparably powerful/skillful.


Not interested in a 9000 word debate with Marco, perhaps after Christmas I'll have the time.

Until then I'm happy as long as Surik makes the list stick out tongue

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carthage
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Since I'm getting no disagreements on tier 8, how about tier 7 now?

I'm going with high tier 7 for Surik, I'm not seeing any justification on how she's above Malgus, Krayt, or Katarn in pure saber skill.


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Tier 7 (with some adjustments to CV)

1. Meetra Surik/Sora Bulq/Savage Opress/Saesee Tiin/Darth Malak/Raskta Lsu

2. Corran Horn/Leia Organa Solo/Ki Adi Mundi/Qui Gon Jinn/Vodo Siosk Baas/Darth Bane/Quinlan Vos/Luminara Unduli/Ven Zallow

3. Galen Marek??/Kenth Hamner/Anakin Solo/Shaak Ti/Adi Gallia/Aayla Secura/



*Any more additions

*Adding Saba Sebatyne to the bottom of tier 8


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Asajj on the same level with Kenobi and Maul? No way imo.

I would say, it's more safe to asume, that she's closer to Fisto and Koon. So is Sora I would say.

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