The text clearly states that if Starkiller hadn't attempted that desperate move it would have been a stalemate. Also Vader only managed to affect the direction of the blade. It was the platform buckling that sent him flying. How is collapsing a cathedral as impressive as collapsing the supports of an orbital superstructure or sending thousands of droids flying or guiding the descent of a Star Destroyer or powering an ore cannon that pierced through a Star Destroyer?
Yeah, and Starkiller executed the plan because he knew Vader was never actually trying to kill him; hence, what Sith are always aiming to do. Ergo, he was holding back, LAL.
Fair enough on the Platform thing, but he still technically TK'ed Killer mid duel.
Did you even read the circumstances of the feat? He was literally knocking on death's door, decades before his prime, and keeping himself alive strictly through sheer will-power and the Force. A prime, fully healed Vader could do everything Galen could and then some.
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It only stated he was holding back when he had disarmed Starkiller.
Yes and? How is that better then the feats I've mentioned? Tons of people have kept themselves alive with the Force and their willpower and aren't some godlike beings of ultimate power. A great example of this being Sion.
That literally makes no sense, but given the source; am I really surprised?
Why would Starkiller willingly put himself in that position to an opponent that was aiming to kill him from the get-go? It was even stated in the duel that Vader was "testing him" and was casually deflecting his blows with a disinterested demeanor and such. Clearly doesn't seem like someone who is strictly out for victory to me.
Are you retarded? LAL.
If Vader was pulling that kind of feat(you do know how durable and monstrous Catherdals are on average, right) in the worst possible condition one can be in, before becoming far more powerful decades later; you seriously don't think he can replicate what Galen performed in a exaggerated medium like TFU if he was the protag?
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I don't know. Only you can give clarity to your personal feelings on the matter.
You posted his monologue, you should know. He wanted to put himself in a indefensible position so that he could lower Vader's guard which is exactly what happened. He didn't seem to have a problem when he "seemingly" defeated Starkiller casually giving him orders to put an end to the Alliance. Vader's smart so of course he had a back up plan for when he was defeated but I doubt he was attempting to lose.
No but you seemingly are by your seeming inability to understand simple points.
Around 30 to 40 meters. I don't know what Vader's power level is by RotJ. He might be able to replicate Galen's feats but that's pure speculation tbh. Also as I said reviving yourself with the Force doesn't seem to be all that impressive given the fact that Sion was capable of doing such ad infinitum.
Sion was an anomaly that was considered to be one of the most powerful Sith Lords ever because of that ability, despite having practically no other notable talents.
Personally I think the Force refused to let Vader die after the cathedral fell on him evidenced by Vader saying "Let the Force decide." As he brought it down.
That's like if I bet my entire life stake on a single coin flip and say "let fate decide". That doesn't mean as a non- superstitious atheist, I believe that fate is a legit force. Clearly a figure of speech on Vader's part.
Except, you have no proof if what Vader was saying was meant to be taken literally, or figuratively. That's my phucking point, LAL. We go by facts not baseless speculation built upon conjecture and ambiguous reading.
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Also, I'll get to the rest of your nonsense tomorrow.
Well I guess it's how you interpret it. Since what Plagueis and Sidious did to darken the Force brought Anakin into being as that was the Force's way of retaliation I would think that the Force wouldn't want Anakin to die until he had accomplished what it wanted.
The Force is the cause of everything in Star Wars, so that's some next level stupid logic. It's not an explanation just because it's a reason. It's like saying random guy 5's mother became pregnant because the Force.
Since the Force retaliated by bringing Anakin into being I can only assume it did not intend for Plagueis and Sidious to do what they did and thus Plagueis and Sidious were not serving the Force with their actions. It makes sense considering Jedi are all about serving the Force while the Sith are all about bending it to their will.
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