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Oneness Galen Marek vs. Vitiate
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Syndicate
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Dem force reserves sure helped a stronger Revan against a weaker version of Vitiate than the one in this thread.

The Immortal Emperor brings Galen to his knees, just like Sidious. smile


Obviously they weren't enough meaning Revan is > Galen. smile

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Going to watch GoT. I'll check out the responses sometime this evening.

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Not really unless they faced a duo like Sidious and Vader right after.

Faced Marka Ragnos and Haxvion with nearly all the Dark Side energy in the known galaxy, which is infinitely more impressive.

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I didn't say he was exhausted ( now who's making assertions? ). I said some of his force reserves would have been drained from fighting through Imperial forces and Vader.
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not to mentioning exhausting his reserves fighting through hordes of Imperials on his way through the Death Star.
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though it will not fill reserves of energy that had already been emptied.
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Apparently "Force Reserves" are separate from physical exhaustion.

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Galen was likely going to destroy Palpie in their force lock. Unfortunately his love for Juno and his friend clouded his heart and mind and he ultimately lowered his defenses and caused an enormous explosion to allow them to escape.


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Lol. Sorry I didn't say it exactly the way you wanted.

His force reserves were TAXED.

His energy had been DEPLETED.

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Faced Marka Ragnos and Haxvion with nearly all the Dark Side energy in the known galaxy, which is infinitely more impressive.


Quote?

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No


Glad to hear your opinion as always. smile

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Except he is. Even flagged from having fought through Imperial forces on the Death Star, Marek was capable of blasting Sidious and engaging in a force lock with him.

My friend, I appreciate Galen Marek and have history of defending him in some debates. But I will stop you here.

Revan, under normal circumstances, couldn't even budge Vitiate from his position. And Revan is one of the greatest Telekinetics out there. I really doubt that Galen Marek can do much against Vitiate.

Palpatine's intentions were suspect in that confrontation. He was more interested in luring Marek to the Dark Side then destroy him.

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Revan has feats greater then guiding down a Star Destroyer after having fought through entire armies including having casually blasted back a small army of hundreds of droids? 0_o

I'd love to know what those feats are tbh.

He was interested in securing a successor for the Sith line actually and after seeing Galen's performance against him he likely deemed him worthy of being his successor.

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lol, this is Oneness Galen, the same one who catches Sidious's lightning and advances on him better than Yoda could. And we know Sidious is going all-out from this source that mentions his "desperation", it's right in that Kun vs. Vader thread and I'm too lazy to get it lol...


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Another staggering, painful step and the Emperor was within the apprentice's reach. With shaking fingers, he took the old man's bony shoulders in his hands and gripped them tight. The Sith lightning spread to engulf the two of them, fueled by both their desperations. The Emperor tipped back his head and howled in lascivious pain. Darkness threatened to envelop the apprentice's mind, but he clutched to consciousness with feverish will. He had to see this through. He had to.


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Lol. Sorry I didn't say it exactly the way you wanted.

His force reserves were TAXED.

His energy had been DEPLETED.
What has this got to do with what I want? Lel. If you're going to accuse people of putting words in your mouth, start by saying what you mean. wink


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lol, this is Oneness Galen, the same one who catches Sidious's lightning and advances on him better than Yoda could. And we know Sidious is going all-out from this source that mentions his "desperation", it's right in that Kun vs. Vader thread and I'm too lazy to get it lol...
Marek doesn't need Oneness, he's ragdolling Sidious all on his own. smile


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I think Syn should post that comic again. Clearly we haven't seen it enough.

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A stupendous idea my good chap.

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Revan has feats greater then guiding down a Star Destroyer after having fought through entire armies including having casually blasted back a small army of hundreds of droids? 0_o

I'd love to know what those feats are tbh.

TFU sources are really liberal in the aspect of demonstrating powers of characters (developers also hinted at this). Therefore, I cannot offer comparisons for each feat of Galen Marek. However, there are additional methods to determine power of a character.

Revan's performance against Darth Nyriss is testament to his superb raw power because containing Sith Lightning through raw power is one of the most difficult tasks for a Jedi Master (pushes even the strongest members of the Jedi order to their limits). Revan also had the ability to channel both Light and Dark Sides of the Force to attain oneness-like state (at will) and unleash his most potent attacks in this manner. Revan is also recognized as the most powerful Jedi in galactic history prior to Yoda. So...

Galen Marek managed to endure Force Lightning of Palpatine but as I pointed out earlier: Palpatine's intent is suspect in the (officially recognized) chain of events. In the alternative chain of events, the contest was entirely one-sided in favor of Palpatine. So...

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I'm listening.

While redirecting lightning as powerful as Nyriss's is impressive Galen did the same to Sidious's which has lit up worlds and his own lightning has powered equipment that has pierced through the hulls of ISD's. Oneness at will? Can you show me any other examples of him doing this outside of the Revan novel? Also can I get the quote for him being the most powerful Jedi prior to Yoda?

It's all about interpretation I find. Given Sidious was always trying to gain a more powerful apprentice to continue the RoT line and acknowledged his belief that Galen could have been his successor in the unofficial version of events, along with Galen's own performance against Sidious after having fought through both Vader and Imperial forces, well, it makes me think that Sidious would have been happy to sacrifice himself if it meant completing Galen's fall to the Dark Side and ensuring continued Sith rule in the Galaxy.

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I'm listening.

While redirecting lightning as powerful as Nyriss's is impressive Galen did the same to Sidious's which has lit up worlds and his own lightning has powered equipment that has pierced through the hulls of ISD's.

When have Palpatine lit up worlds with Force Lightning? I don't think this is possible in literal sense.

Galen's feat of activating a gun that pierced through the hull of an ISD is not a meaningful example to cite here. It just tells us that Force Lightning can be useful in similar situations.

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Oneness at will? Can you show me any other examples of him doing this outside of the Revan novel?

There is no other instance of it but possibility cannot be ruled out since many events featuring Revan lack have not been documented.

However, that showing is representative of Revan's innate talent:

Three centuries ago, Revan wielded the dual philosophies of Sith passion and Jedi tranquility to conquer his enemies; he even nearly assassinated the Sith Emperor.

From Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia

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Also can I get the quote for him being the most powerful Jedi prior to Yoda?

Yes:

In battle after battle, Revan had led the Jedi and Republic forces to victory. Realizing defeat was inevitable, Mandalore the Ultimate had challenge Revan to single combat, and Revan had accepted. Though the Mandalorian fought valiantly, in the end he was no match for the Jedi Order's most powerful champion.

From Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan

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Revan travels to a very iconic Yavin IV to go to battle and release the actual Emperor, one we thought who was defeated not long ago. The player is pulled into this struggle of two of the most powerful Force users, like ever, in the history of the Old Republic, if not beyond - Revan and the Emperor. (Michael Backus - SWTOR content writer)

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Like Revan, The Emperor understood the Force in ways Scourge never would.

From Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan

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He was a living legend; the embodiment of myth and folklore; a figure that transcended history.

From Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan

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It's all about interpretation I find. Given Sidious was always trying to gain a more powerful apprentice to continue the RoT line and acknowledged his belief that Galen could have been his successor in the unofficial version of events, along with Galen's own performance against Sidious after having fought through both Vader and Imperial forces, well, it makes me think that Sidious would have been happy to sacrifice himself if it meant completing Galen's fall to the Dark Side and ensuring continued Sith rule in the Galaxy.

Well, I am simply pointing out what I have observed in the game that considers all possibilities (depending upon choices made).

It doesn't makes sense that the confrontation is entirely one-sided (during alternative chain of events) but not one-sided (during officially recognized chain of events). There has to be difference in intent in both cases.

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