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"International waters", the articles say.

Not "disputed". Does that mean China doesn't have a claim on those waters, but they're flexing their muscles against anyone who even travels near them?


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Do you believe that China has the rights it has claimed throughout the China Sea, thats the primary concern.

If you believe it does then there we go.

If you believe it doesn't, how do you propose it be contained?

The US is reacting to the situation not the one creating the situation. Hence China would be the aggressors.




Malaysia, Taiwan, the Philippines and Vietnam also have military installations on the spratly islands yet Brunei's claim is better than anyone's. Are they also aggressors?

They all have one thing in common though. They all have more right to some control of the south China Sea than the US does.


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Malaysia, Taiwan, the Philippines and Vietnam also have military installations on the spratly islands yet Brunei's claim is better than anyone's. Are they also aggressors?

They all have one thing in common though. They all have more right to some control of the south China Sea than the US does.


That could very well be, my complaint is the island building China is doing then its claiming that as sovreign territory around said island that was man made in disputed waters.

Besides I don't see the USA saying we want your islands. Some of the busiest shipping lanes in the world are in this area and China is looking to create a maze of sovreign islands to control the shipping lanes let alone the resources under said water.

Also there is alot more then just spratly islands when talking about China stating it has control over ALL SOUTH CHINA sea.

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Malaysia, Taiwan, the Philippines and Vietnam also have military installations on the spratly islands yet Brunei's claim is better than anyone's. Are they also aggressors?

They all have one thing in common though. They all have more right to some control of the south China Sea than the US does.


Many asked the US to intervene, among other countries.


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Malaysia, Taiwan, the Philippines and Vietnam also have military installations on the spratly islands yet Brunei's claim is better than anyone's. Are they also aggressors?

They all have one thing in common though. They all have more right to some control of the south China Sea than the US does.

But none of these countries can stand up to China, even if they all stand together they can't really oppose China without US help.

The US of course has its own interests at play, and it is primarily interested in containing China, but in this case China is the aggressor and has a ridiculous position. Their claim line is based on Chinese exploration centuries ago, which, if that were the basis for countries claiming territorial waters, would give Spain and Portgual control of 90% of the world's oceans.


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