Ummm okay, I know the ways in which he is different. Which doesn't include ANY reference to him not gaining in power as time progresses as we've seen for almost all jedi and sith. That is the difference I'm referring to.
I'm aware, but it's simply a matter of diminishing returns. The Exile grows more powerful from her wound yes, even more so if you take the DS path, but at the same time her wound grows ever larger, so it stands to reason that eventually the power the wound was consuming would outweigh the power she was gaining because of it.
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That's not where the quote is from, lol. You're quoting from the DS Enclave scene, whereas I'm quoting from the scene on the Ebon Hawk where she discusses him with you.
Synonymous with what, his Force abilities? I would disagree, I think its implicit that Nihilus was weakened by this little trap Kreia set, and a further denial of satiation at the hands of the Exile only weakened him more.But that's not what its doing, its devouring him, this is made clear by various sources, and its what presses him to feed, to replace his lost energies.
However if each successive use of drain did indeed empower him, then he'd become more and more able to satiate his hunger, but the reverse is true.
The trap Kreia set in of itself didn't weaken Nihilus, lol. Nowhere is that suggested. As for Nihilus being weakened by the Exile, it wasn't so much the denial of satiation as it was the negation of his Drain, which I assume I would assume requires considerable effort and its use without any sort of reward would've exhausted Nihilus somewhat. The KotORCG describes him as being "psychically starved" when his powers are repelled.
Likewise, nowhere is it suggested that the hunger is reducing his power. This isn't just a matter of Force reserves, but a contest of wills. If it helps you to think of it like this, just imagine that it's Nihilus vs Drain in terms of willpower. Every time Nihilus uses Drain, Drain wins, and Nihilus succumbs in that battle of willpower, slowly. When Drain wins that battle completely, then Nihilus is a goner. Likewise, Drain starts to win whenever Nihilus "starves", or goes without feeding for a period of time. In other words, Nihilus is screwed - Drain wins either way. That's kind of how his character works.
Nowhere is it suggested that Nihilus' Force energies are lost with each Drain - Kreia outright says that he will feed until nothing is left, which is when he starves to oblivion.
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It's suggested right there, Nihilus suffering obviously =/= not good, and indeed its no coincidence that Telos just so happens to be a dead world (much like the Exile was herself a dead spot), of course that choice was deliberate.
Well you just disproved your own point there, "starved" needs no further explanation.
Being gobbled up by a wound would have that effect, its just the logical conclusion to make.
This "willpower" shit is just something you've shoehorned it, it was eating him, literally. Losing a battle of wills doesn't make your body disintegrate lmao.
Regardless I find Neph's analogy sense making, it stands to reason that Nihilus power would fluctuate in a series of peaks and troughs, but still be overall ascending. Maybe.Lol.
Well, it was said that he could feed on it for temporary sustenance. Either way, the trap itself didn't actually make Nihilus weaker. It just wasn't the chance for the satiation that he wanted.
Him being weaker when he uses Drain without getting any sort of reward doesn't mean that he's constantly getting weaker.
What are you talking about?
Nihilus' body had disintegrated already, yet it was still "devouring" him. At the time of the game, he's pretty much just will in an armor. It's obvious what the nature of this devouring is. It's addicting, which would mean that it was slowly forcing him to use it more and more. That seems like a willpower thing to me.
Whatever you want to use to rationalize it, lol. My point is that there's nothing outright contradicting Kreia's point about Nihilus getting stronger. You're just bringing in random circumstantial stuff and speculation.
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