Specifically stated that he is multiversal because he rules over universes. It is stated that he is simultaniously in all universes, but that doesn't mean he is a universal being.
"The Tribunal would have destroyed earth and it's reality"-Dr.Strange. A reality is equals to a universe. He would destroy Earth's universe meaning he is above Universal scale. Unlike Eternity where his powers are limited to that universe, for he is the universe.
I could keep uploading extracts of comics all day and keep proving you my point just as i did with the Wiki link. Here i leave you a like of a GOOD youtube channel which explains comics and characters so you can better inform yourself. AND DON'T COME AND TELL ME THAT IT ISN'T EVIDENCE NOR VALID! Because the dude explains his points while showing comics, so it is pretty valid!
Evidence is evidence. If the Wiki shows evidence proving it's points isn't meaningless. The only reason i used the wiki is because i want to save myself from going to find the evidence myself. But either way i did now so you can see the Wiki isn't wrong.
You are right, Thanos didn't destroy the Multiverse. But he did in a way. By destroying the LT it means that the multiverse is without protector. Also remeber that the LT is the strongest being in the Multiverse, so that means that Thanos with the HOTU is now the strongest and is above the multiverse.
Yes, we've been through this. Tribunal is the embodiment of the multiverse.
However, he acts through M-Bodies. One in each universe.
The End took place in a single universe. Plot points introduced within it, such as Death being absolute, took place within Earth-4321, as Death is not absolute in 616.
Adam Warlock, being outside of the universe in this story, was outside of Thanos' awareness, and his absorbing the universe.
There is nothing in the story that suggests it was more than a universe outside of you wanting it to be because of the inclusion of the Tribunal.
The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 2006 says the events of The End take place in Earth-4321.
As shown here, even Marvel's senior editor agrees that it's not-canon to the main Marvel Universe. Moreover, that it was never intended to be so.
Tribunal is NOT the embodiment of the multiverse, that was just a misconception by the writer. Living Tribunal is exactly what his name implies, the supreme judge over all that exists.
Okay yes, there is one Living Tribunal in each universe. But this is expected because the Living Tribunal is Omnipresent. Again, this doesn't mean that the Living Tribunal as a being is at a universal scale. The title multiversal means that he has the power to affect other universe. For instance, Eternity is at a universal power scale. For if there is one eternity in every Universe, each is their own character. (Earth 616 Eternity and Earth 617 eternity although being the same entity, both are different characters). The Tribunal on the other had although being in every universe, is ONE WHOLE character; One Living Tribunal for the entire Multiverse.
By the HOTU killing the Tribunal implies that is above Multiversal scale because it defeated the embodyment of the Multiverse (LT). So, am not wrong here.
Not a literal embodiment of the Multiverse (Like for instance Eternity which is an embodiment it's universe). But by embodiment it means it represents the Multiverse. It is the protector of all that there is/the multiverse.
Sorry, it's clear that this isn't supported. The End comics only refer to universe, its events don't affect 616 Universe, as I've mentioned about making Death absolute not affecting 616, and Warlock being outside of the universe left him unaffected and beyond Thanos' awareness. add that to the OHOTMU and Marvel's editor both say it's alternate timeline, and only in that timeline.
How you reconcile that is up to you, but it's very clear it's one universe and an alternate one.
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He is certainly Multiversal in the Multiversal Eternity in Universe Iteration 8 as of Ultimates on sale last year. He still got killed by Chaos and Order.
One universe and an alternate one that's right. But within the Marvel "universe", the canon one, the multiverse works that way. The Living Tribunal as judge of the Multiverse, and an entity for every universe within the marvel multiverse.
What happens on other stories, remains in other stories (Like Adam warlock becoming LT in the alternate universe).
Yeah Eternity in the current continuity has become Multiversal. And, Yes, Chaos and Order killed the tribunal. But once again i don't believe the Tribunal is dead, he is simply not taking part in the events of the Ultimates. Again no cosmic balance is being upset, and therefore the Tribunal isn't needed nor does it get involve.
Brevoort actually addresses the claim that beating Tribunal gives this story legitimacy because of Tribunal being multiversal in the link I gave you.
He says it has no relevance to mainstream Marvel, obviously showing a disconnect between this portrayal of LT, and the mainstream one.
They assign it a universe number, as they do with what-ifs and alternate timelines, but "The End" are just contained imaginary stories. Nothing from this story affected anything other than a single universe in an imaginary story where rules can be bent and broken.
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