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But what proof you have that the suit had anything to do with it?

Unless it was stated, it's just a guess.


So what? An educated guess that is supported by the fact that Tasky only performed double speed while wearing the suit. He didn't perform it before and hasn't done it since.

Unless you have proof of him doing it outside of the suit. The main thing is he certainly was his normal self when he beat the Cat.

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So what? An educated guess that is supported by the fact that Tasky only performed double speed while wearing the suit. He didn't perform it before and hasn't done it since.

Unless you have proof of him doing it outside of the suit. The main thing is he certainly was his normal self when he beat the Cat.


Except it doesn't make sense.

If the suit boosted his physicals or gave him some regen, Tasky wouldn't need to limit himself so much.

We can't make up shit like that, same as cdtm can't make up what happened or didn't happen off-panel.

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Plenty of ideas get abandoned. Jean Grey used to know martial arts, it was never referenced again.

Back to Taskmaster. UDON run stated he had a photographic memory, everything was crystal clear to him. Not just fighting skills. Everything, all of his memories.

And not only it didn't get referenced again, it was retconned that he started forgetting stuff since he memorized too many fighting styles.


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Except it doesn't make sense.


Except it makes more sense then someone who can briefly double his speed without the suit, you know not doing ever. Except the one time he does it, he just happens to be wearing a rare high tech futuristic suit.

Plus IIRC he doesn't wear it again except for a Power Pack comic that may or may not be canon.

But like I stated is there any other instance of him going double speed? If not, and it seems there are none, it doesn't matter at all for this thread which is the point. He two shotted the Cat without double speed, without any upgraded or new tech.

Yeah comic writers do whatever they want when they want. There's no disagreement there. They will give Logan heat claws if they think it will sell. So Tasky went from remembering everything, to not even remembering what he done the prior week as he told Finesse.

So to me I believe that the suit had something to do with Taksy being able to go double speed briefly, but its really not a point that matters in this thread. Or one that I feel strongly about to continue discussing.

Even if the suit had absolutely nothing to do with it, Tasky still only went double time for one issue. Unless you have proof that he did it since.

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If we really want to argue whether or not there was a chance he used it against Shen, we should check if the Madripoor tournament happened before or after Taskmaster's Udon book.



Is that the same one where Black Widow beat f'n Wonder Man?


Ashamed to even use Danny beating Pietro because of that, it makes the whole tournament suspect.


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Except it makes more sense then someone who can briefly double his speed without the suit, you know not doing ever. Except the one time he does it, he just happens to be wearing a rare high tech futuristic suit.

Plus IIRC he doesn't wear it again except for a Power Pack comic that may or may not be canon.

But like I stated is there any other instance of him going double speed? If not, and it seems there are none, it doesn't matter at all for this thread which is the point. He two shotted the Cat without double speed, without any upgraded or new tech.

Yeah comic writers do whatever they want when they want. There's no disagreement there. They will give Logan heat claws if they think it will sell. So Tasky went from remembering everything, to not even remembering what he done the prior week as he told Finesse.

So to me I believe that the suit had something to do with Taksy being able to go double speed briefly, but its really not a point that matters in this thread. Or one that I feel strongly about to continue discussing.

Even if the suit had absolutely nothing to do with it, Tasky still only went double time for one issue. Unless you have proof that he did it since.


This discussion is pointless.

The way you worded it, I hoped you had some actual proof the suit amped him. You don't.

Let's agree to disagree here and leave it at that, as it's going nowhere.

By the way, this is exactly what cd aims to do in this thread.



UDON Taskmaster mini-series was released in April, 2002 (first issue).

The comic with the first part of the Bloodsport tournament (in which Tasky beats Shen) was released in October, 2001.

So there you go. No way that ability could've been shoehorned there then, as it simply didn't exist.

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Is that the same one where Black Widow beat f'n Wonder Man?


Ashamed to even use Danny beating Pietro because of that, it makes the whole tournament suspect.


No.

You've officially become worse than Carver.

You're thinking of Contest of Champions II. And Pietro was beaten by Gambit, not Danny.


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This discussion is pointless.

The way you worded it, I hoped you had some actual proof the suit amped him. You don't.

Let's agree to disagree here and leave it at that, as it's going nowhere.

By the way, this is exactly what cd aims to do in this thread.



UDON Taskmaster mini-series was released in April, 2002 (first issue).

The comic with the first part of the Bloodsport tournament (in which Tasky beats Shen) was released in October, 2001.

So there you go. No way that ability could've been shoehorned there then, as it simply didn't exist.



No.

You've officially become worse than Carver.

You're thinking of Contest of Champions II. And Pietro was beaten by Gambit, not Danny.



No, Colossus definitely lost to Iron Fist. Probably Contest of Champions 2.

And Natasha beat Simon, which no one really questions.


I do remember Taskmaster beating Cat at some tourney or other now. Those things always had problems, even Battletide had Logan beating the crap out of CL100 Deaths Head II with his bare hands, who could shrug off a full power Optic Blast.


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No, Colossus definitely lost to Iron Fist. Probably Contest of Champions 2.


Colossus is not Pietro.

You're doing awful today, cdcarver.


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Colossus is not Pietro.

You're doing awful today, cdcarver.



Ivan Drunkowski then.


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People are not going to treat you seriously if you can't even remember characters' names stick out tongue


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This discussion is pointless.

The way you worded it, I hoped you had some actual proof the suit amped him. You don't.

Let's agree to disagree here and leave it at that, as it's going nowhere.

By the way, this is exactly what cd aims to do in this thread.


My proof got retconned away by bsdm. Correcting all of his inaccuracies took a toll on my memories. Now I know how Tony Masters feel.

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Hey, I resemble that.


It's not like your correction made any of that stuff not happen.


Shang was always an apex predator anyways, is there any story related proof he upped his game since Master of Kung Fu?


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My proof got retconned away by bsdm. Correcting all of his inaccuracies took a toll on my memories. Now I know how Tony Masters feel.


laughing out loud

We really shouldn't be indulging him and keeping this thread going... but, alas, KMC no longer has the activity it once had.

Beggars can't be choosers.


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thumb up Yeah he simply doesn't have the showings or enough of the high end stuff to compete with the elite mmas feats.


Back on topic.

Shen might be a great character concept, a clever opposite of Shang.

But he needs appearances and feats to assess him properly.

His showing against Cyke is meaningless, as proven earlier in this thread.

Wolverine appreciating him enough to want to spar with him is just lip service.

He might've been Shang's equal back in the day, but Shang has progressed and Shen's been out of the spotlight for too long.


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