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DarkSaint85
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Yeah. If all these guys fight Wolverine like they fought Hulk, I say he has a good chance of clearing.

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Yeah. If all these guys fight Wolverine like they fought Hulk, I say he has a good chance of clearing.

No, he doesn't.

Wolverine isn't Hulk. He doesn't have the physical strength nor fast enough of a healing factor to compete with some of the people on the list.
I'd argue that even Namor is strong enough to grab Wolverine and then just keep him in place until Wolverine yields.

What might not work against the Hulk, will work against Wolverine every single time:
https://i.imgur.com/sy3urGj.jpg

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No, he doesn't.

Wolverine isn't Hulk. He doesn't have the physical strength nor fast enough of a healing factor to compete with some of the people on the list.
I'd argue that even Namor is strong enough to grab Wolverine and then just keep him in place until Wolverine yields.

What might not work against the Hulk, will work against Wolverine every single time:
https://i.imgur.com/sy3urGj.jpg

They're not grabbing Logan's hands in this gauntlet.

They're fighting him like they do against the Hulk. So for example, in WWH, if Sentry grabbed Hulk's hands and held him in place then he can do so here.

But if he flew into Hulk and traded punches, then that's what happens here.

Of course, Sentry being the last in the gauntlet makes him the toughest and most debatable.

So against Namor, for example, it would go like this:

Wolverine hits Namor full in the chest.

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Then they trade blows, so Logan is stabbing Namor some more.

Would Namor recover in time to deliver a blow to Wolverine's head? When injured like he would be from a full stab, would it even be effective? Then Wolverine can keep fighting.

Against WWH Sentry, Sentry will speed blitz Wolverine, smashing him through buildings etc....would Logan recover in time for the panel where Hulk punches SEntry square in the head? ('Whatever happens next....is on your head, bub')
https://imgur.com/a/C31HP

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Would Namor recover in time to deliver a blow to Wolverine's head? When injured like he would be from a full stab, would it even be effective? Then Wolverine can keep fighting.

That strike would probably result in a far worse injury, tbh. Dicing him in two, even.

Fun fact: Pre-FA Logan (impaired by the mind-control) took a kick to the head from Namor with no trouble (and a punch to the face prior to it).

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Against WWH Sentry, Sentry will speed blitz Wolverine, smashing him through buildings etc....would Logan recover in time for the panel where Hulk punches SEntry square in the head? ('Whatever happens next....is on your head, bub')
https://imgur.com/a/C31HP

The best I can think of atm is when Gladiator flew through a building or two at high speed to get Logan off him in the Earthfall mini.

While he *did* manage to get rid of him in the end, Logan wasn't bothered one bit by that.

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That strike would probably result in a far worse injury, tbh. Dicing him in two, even.

Fun fact: Pre-FA Logan (impaired by the mind-control) took a kick to the head from Namor with no trouble (and a punch to the face prior to it).

The best I can think of atm is when Gladiator flew through a building or two at high speed to get Logan off him in the Earthfall mini.

While he *did* manage to get rid of him in the end, Logan wasn't bothered one bit by that.

Logan has also been punted into Georgia (the European country, not the state), so...

Against Abomination:
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It probably ends in that first panel.

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Logan has also been punted into Georgia (the European country, not the state), so...

By Inhuman Gorgon, true.

But I was trying to think of specific instances when he got tackled through numerous concrete walls and such, similar to Sentry/WWH.

It also involved some of Sentry's unique energy radiation, so it's impossible to exactly replicate that, though.

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Against Abomination:

It probably ends in that first panel.

Yeah, but it's not fair as Emil was busy with Jean and Hulk blindsided him.

Including cheapshots, this battle could end in the first panel here, too:

https://imgur.com/gallery/bpTAXOQ

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Lol. I thought that...but from the angle, it looks like Hulk was jumping directly over Abom, whilst approaching directly head on.

That's......kinda weird if you don't see a giant green Hulk doing that.

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He was pissed at Jean and all that energy from her forcefield could have obscured his vision. Plus, Hulk can leap pretty fast.

He's still finishing his sentence when Hulk grabs his head.

Sure, it's not an ideal cheapshot, but it's a battle between Class 100 behemoths --- they are not as perceptive as the likes of Captain America or Batman.

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Stops at Namor. Namor has the common sense to try to grab Logan's wrists to prevent him from hurting him. Namor has a few pretty good speed feats.

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Stops at Namor. Namor has the common sense to try to grab Logan's wrists to prevent him from hurting him. Namor has a few pretty good speed feats.

Namor isn't fighting him like he fights Logan.

He is fighting him like he fights Hulk.

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Stops at Namor. Namor has the common sense to try to grab Logan's wrists to prevent him from hurting him. Namor has a few pretty good speed feats.

1) Wolverine is faster than Namor.

2) You didn't get this thread at all.

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He was pissed at Jean and all that energy from her forcefield could have obscured his vision. Plus, Hulk can leap pretty fast.

He's still finishing his sentence when Hulk grabs his head.

Sure, it's not an ideal cheapshot, but it's a battle between Class 100 behemoths --- they are not as perceptive as the likes of Captain America or Batman.

Fair does. You think Wolverine can't leap as fast as Hulk? evil face

I am considering that perhaps WWH/Thing's fight is the best chance for stopping Wolverine, actually:

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Three full on shots from Ben. IF Wolverine can take those three, then he wins with a double claw stab to the head.

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Fair does. You think Wolverine can't leap as fast as Hulk?

I am considering that perhaps WWH/Thing's fight is the best chance for stopping Wolverine, actually:

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Three full on shots from Ben. IF Wolverine can take those three, then he wins with a double claw stab to the head.

Well, if Wolverine just had to take Human Torch's nova attack and Storm's lightning (as WWH did), then he's in some serious trouble.

Other than that, three shots shouldn't be too much; he' taken more punches from WWH himself and several hits from a demonically possessed Sasquatch (and we all agreed on this forum how demonic possession enhances one's strength).

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Strength and durability get a little too high at number 5 and up.

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Well, if Wolverine just had to take Human Torch's nova attack and Storm's lightning (as WWH did), then he's in some serious trouble.

Other than that, three shots shouldn't be too much; he' taken more punches from WWH himself and several hits from a demonically possessed Sasquatch (and we all agreed on this forum how demonic possession enhances one's strength).

True. Hulk recovered pretty quickly from the Nova and the lightning....

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Strength and durability get a little too high at number 5 and up.

It does indeed.

HOWEVER, this is the fight that Hulk won against Rulk:

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So in THIS fight, Wolverine will (try to) bullrush Rulk (lol), get punched in the face by Rulk, attempt to bearhug (lol) Rulk, before getting headbutted.

If Wolverine can live through the punch and the headbutt....he punches Rulk what looks like three, four? full on stabs into Rulk's head. Which IMO he can, and means he gets past Rulk.

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1) Wolverine is faster than Namor.

2) You didn't get this thread at all.

Namor has a speed feat that's above anything Logan has ever done.
And one blow from Namor would stun Logan enough for Namor to easily restrain Logan. Then Logan would be helpless.
Stops at Namor.

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Namor has a speed feat that's above anything Logan has ever done.
And one blow from Namor would stun Logan enough for Namor to easily restrain Logan. Then Logan would be helpless.
Stops at Namor.

This is the fight, replace Hulk with Logan:
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...28-hulk%201.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...29-hulk%202.jpg

As you can see, Logan will get to stab Namor first.

Or here:
https://imgur.com/gallery/bpTAXOQ

As you can see, Logan will stab Namor in the head first.

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Namor has a speed feat that's above anything Logan has ever done.
And one blow from Namor would stun Logan enough for Namor to easily restrain Logan. Then Logan would be helpless.
Stops at Namor.

No, he doesn't.

Impartial narrator already told us that Wolverine has the speed advantage.

A single hit from Namor never did the trick; you would know that if you read their fights.

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Jul 6th, 2020 11:22 AM

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PS. You still don't understand the point and rules of this thread. Go back to the original post.

DarkSaint tried to explain it to you more than once, but you are too obtuse to understand, h1 (dementia, perhaps?).

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This is the fight, replace Hulk with Logan:
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...28-hulk%201.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/u...29-hulk%202.jpg

As you can see, Logan will get to stab Namor first.

Or here:
https://imgur.com/gallery/bpTAXOQ

As you can see, Logan will stab Namor in the head first.

No he won't because Major would easily grab Logan's wrists easier than he caught those mach 3 missiles.

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