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and THAT is exactly why arguments with you are so interesting....you're very objective in your views. Cheers Ush...


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Re: Re: Re: Legalising Prostitution?????

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But as Asami said, they are already doing it...many women are. Those women obviously dont see it like that...




well that is because those women are sick and obviously dont have any morals at all! and most defiantly a low self-esteem to put them selves in that position.

why in the world would any body in the right mind Just sleep with every body and any body!.....Its just wrong and Morally sick!

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Are ponography actors/actresses like prostitutes as well? They get paid for it and the video is sold to the public.

Is this just as bad/worse than prostitution?


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It is one further level removed, and also is safe disease wise.

Whilst it CAN negatively affect people, it does not drill that whole 'people are commodities' thing into the mind of people as it still seems fantasy to most.


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Don't see how pornography can have any real effect on anything, it is not real, it is like the difference between thought and action, all the difference.


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Pornography as in the actors. Aren't they selling sex/their bodies for money?


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Yes, but that is still not the same as the ethic of prostitution.


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Some see it as exploitation as well e.g whoever it was in the art forums.

So *if* the pretty prostitutes managed to become "porn stars" that's like a career change, still doing the same thing though i.e. sex.
But I guess not all prostitutes can become actors/actresses. I don't think people who watch pornography wouldn want to see something aesthetically challenged on screen supposedly being a turn on?!

Actually, does anyone remember Hugh Grant's case when he got caught with a prostitute, was it Divine Brown?


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Seriously- pornogrpahy simply does not cause the problems prostitution does! That is plain to anyone. We are not talking out outlawing sex here, but a trade that fuels the worst in our society.

There IS an element in porn that does that of course.


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Ush> Oh, I'm not disagreeing that legalisation of prostitution would create another set of problems. But from the study you posted, it seemed to me, that the problems occur when prostitution is just legalised and not CHANGED also in the process.
However - the problems caused by prositution are there TODAY. And should be dealt with one way or another.

"Just wrong" and "morally sick"? Well, that's what I've been brought up to think. My main problem with prostitution is that it reduces a woman's body to a consumer good, as if it isn't already happening everywhere with the pornofication of the public space. Im not so sure society and equality between the genders benefit from prostitution - legal or not.

Again: Prostitution exists. Can someone convince me, that these women (and some men) really LIKE their line of work? That they wouldn't really rather do something else?


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(shrugs)

That is known.


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I never knew it was against the law... erm Now I'm wondering why.. gimme a few to read the thread stick out tongue


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well according to interviews with various ppl in that line of work (which I have read) I got the idea that some indeed enjoy it


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Paying money for sex isn't against the law but institutionalising it is- as in, soliciting for it, and the organisation of it.


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Aha, I get it now! Thanks Ush smile


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Xena... Nobody is forcing these women to be prostitutes... It's their decision to make...



Im sorry but some of these women do not have a choice sometimes. Some of them are single mothers in porverty. I sounds awful but unfortunaly when there is no food or clothes a mother will sacrifice ANYTHING for her children! Specially a mother who doesnt have any means to support her children. Legalizing prostitutions will only make their pimps more richer and the women more subjected to their rule! Legalize prostitution is not a good answer to stoppin prostitution!

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Ush> WHAT is known? An unspecified one-sentence makes no sense.


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Oh come on, Omega, I think it is pretty clear it refers to your point about whether any person actually likes that line of work.


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Ush> Nope. It’s not my job to GUESS what you mean.
So it’s “known” that some women (and men) like to be prostitutes? Any studies and links to support that claim?

Barf> I have to agree with the Xena Fan here. Maybe some $10.000 a night luxury-escort girls don’t mind the job (although I need proof of that). IF we legalise prostitution we say it’s okay to degrade women to consumer goods. And there are – as I already mentioned – the problem of trafficking.

All> Today I read on a Danish news site, that the government wants to make it illegal for soldiers to visit prostitutes when they’re stationed abroad. I had NO idea that was legal!!
Actually I think I’ve decided to be against legalising prostitution as it will be condoning reducing people to objects. If some men are so devoid of charm and wits that they can’t even get a one-night stand, they should do something about themselves.


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Put bluntly, prostitution will always be with us... if we make it legal, or at least decriminalise it, it has to be a good thing in the long run. In Leicester, the main problem with prostitution seems to be not that it exists, but that it happens in residential areas, with innocent women being approached by kerb crawlers looking for a girl... if it were decriminalised, prostitution could be moved to other areas, for instance the police in Leicester are suggesting the Highfields girls move to a nearby industrial estate. The idea is, if they stay there, the girls won't be hassled by the police, and neither will their customers.. Around here no one has a problem with prostitution per se, just the peripheral problems. Also, I must point out that in the UK, prostitution per se is not illegal, only soliciting and procuring...


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