It was in some time after Magneto had taken control of Genosha that the High Evo. did something that rendered all mutants powerless. And as powerful as Franklin is he is still a mutant!
answering SUPREMTHOR: I SAY THAT FRANKLIN "IS" MORE POWERFUL THAN LUCIFER BECAUSE, WE KNOW THAT LUCIFER CAN CREATE UNIVERSES, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT HE NEEDS HIS BROTHER MICHEAL TO DO THAT, WHICH ALSO MEANS THAT ALONE "HE CAN NOT " CREATE A UNIVERSE. BUT FRANKLIN AS WE KNOW "COULD" CREATE UNIVERSES WITHOUT "ANYONE'S" HELP EVEN WHEN HE WAS A CHILD! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND THAT LEADS ME TO SAY THAT LUCIFER MORNINGSTAR IS ONLY HALF AS POWERFUL AS FRANKLIN RICHARDS
{OH AND U DO REALIZE THAT WHAT FRANKLIN DEMONSTRATED AS A CHILD WASNT EVEN A FRACTION OF HIS POTENTIAL PSIONIC STRENGTH}
and as far as the discussion about FRANKLIN beeing JUST A MUTANT and thus beeing very weak against any mutant snatching device goes. thas just like sayin that : because magneto has his damn helmet on, he can NOT be affected by any kind of telepathic attack. {which is very stupid since there are mutants like nate who can easily penetrate that helmet with their telepathy} similarly franklin's reality manipulation can easily grant him protection from these kinda things{IF HE WANTS}
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Reality manipulation? Bah! who cares. None of that matters. There is nothing Spectre can't do. Franklin and Nate are as useless against the Spectre as Supes is against them.
As for Franklin being more powerful than Lucifer, poppycock! Frankling may be able to "create" a universe, but Lucifer can rule over one as it's god.
Spectre can do anything...but stop Anti-Monitor from putting him into a comma. ...anything but beat Michael. ...anything but stopping Parallax. And where was Spectre when Imperiex showed his Celestial/Galactus copy clowny ass in DC?
Whocares about reality manipulation are you kidding? Ability to manipulate matter on a cosmic scale, vast psionic power, reality manipulation, telepathic, telekinetic powers and so on. He could increase nates powers, certainly could affect primes powers by draining his energy. Could block out the sun etc.
Like ive been saying if parralax can give spectre all he can handle, so can frank.
Somebody has already responded about Spectre. There are obviously things he cant do, deal bro.
can someone tell me exactly how powerfull superman prime is...i been hearing alot of stuff about how he's so0o0o powerful etc etc....so exact;y HOW much more powerful is he than bak in the ol' dayz
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You can't drown a fish. Spectre can alter you soul. There's nothing that Nate of Franklin could do against him. Comparing them to Parralax is a foolsih mistake.
So did Spectre do that to Parralax? Of course there are things that Frank forsure and possibly nate two can do against him. Spectre is not completely invunerable, invincible, and all powerful.
Ive asked this before a number of times in this thread. What could parralax do that Franklin couldnt?
So franklin's ability to alter reality is "nothing" but Spectre's ability to alter your soul is "everything".... Wow
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dude it is a fool's errand to compare nate or franklin to the spectre force. spectre being the embodiment of god's wrath must show restraint cuz everything he does is the will of god. yeah he had a hard time with parrallax but one could argue that god didnt require him to participate in those battles so it wasnt his will for him to win.................im just saying.......... But it is also a fool's errand to say "gee, he had a hard time with parrallax so that means Franklin must be stronger". you must be freaking crazy! Spectre hands out ass whoopings in the name of god dude! he doesnt need to create pocket dimensions.
If he "must" show restraint than he isnt as powerful as you would like to believe. If he couldnt override that to beat parralax, then im assuming he cant period.
I know what spectre is but he can still be hurt by beings of sufficient power, he can still be stopped, beaten and such.
He had a hard time with parralax? He was given all he could handle.
Anyway, the next person to make a convincing case for Spectre will be the first.
The Spectre-force is released from limbo. It refuses again to join a human host, but is forced by Michael, Archangel of Heaven. Michael uses his other form, Kali of Hindu belief system, to join Wrath of God to human host. In India, a man named Caraka sees his wife & child killed by Beltane. Wishing vengeance, he is made into new host of Spectre by Michael/Kali.