Fair enough friend, here's a question that has been bugging me for the longest time. When the Sentry confronted the Collective did he grow to match the Collectives size? The Void had the ability to grow in size so did Bob increase his size as well? I know John Romita's art is good for what it is, but somethimes he is off... did you notice that Sentry's mass increased when he fought King Hulk? I just can't tell because they looked nearly the same size.
Also when he fought the Collective Deodato's space seen was impossible to tell if they were both over a hundred feet tall because they were in space, and in space even Galctus looks small.... do you know what I mean?
Just remember that when all of those heros tried to stop the Void, it was a giant. The Void and the Sentry are one and the same being.
I still think that the Sentry's highest showings are above the Sillver Surfers, but time will tell. I for one will be happy to admit I was wrong if Bob lose's when they eventually meet, and for what it's worth, if Marvel continues on with this plot line, Galactus will be coming back to devour the earth eventually, and the Silver Surfer will be with him.
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Foreshadowing is pointing to it, since the Surfer became his Herald again it seems to be the next step in the plotline, because let's face it the only way for the Surfer to shine is for him to become part of the mainstream, and what better way for him to do this than for him to lead Galactus back to earth.... does anyone truly know what Galactus did to him? Was it another sould wipe? Was it a power up? Wasit a little of both?
Of course no one can be certain that Galactus will once again threaten the earth, but Marvel began hyping this up the moment they had Spiderman say that the Sentry drove Galactus off without any on panel evidence.
We will have to wait and see.
Are you certain that he did not increase in size... look at WWHulk 5 again and tell me if you see Bob nearly the same size as King Hulk.... maybe it was poor art, maybe he did increase in size.
If for the sake of argument Sentry did once drive Galactus off, it would be logical that he somhow can increase his size.
Like I said we will see.
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Bringing someone back from the dead in an impressive feat(no doubt), but it's not exactly unheard of. Her's been shown to be able to do it and she's on par with Warlock WITHOUT the Soul Gem powerwise and is nowhere near the energy manipulator that Surfer is.
And even if we assume that manipulation of a life form is definitively more impressive than the standard manipulation of energy(which is strictly a matter of opinion), is bringing one person back from the dead really more impressive restoring life on a planet, then evolving the planet and every being on it billions of years in a matter of seconds so that everything's finally destroyed...
Maybe because Thanos has energy absorption abilities of his own and his powers are generally of a higher tier than Surfer's. Maybe he's afraid that Thanos's max will overload him. Maybe it's just PIS. Who knows? But the fact that Surfer doesn't try to drain Thanos doesn't indicate that he's unable to anymore than it indicates Thanos being immune to absorption in general from EVERYONE.
You do realize that Skull was the first guy to handle a cube on panel and has done so multiple times since right? And again, I'm not saying that whatever it was that Sentry did wasn't impressive, but our lack of information about what was going on makes the feat too ambiguous and unquantifiable to accurately gauge Sentry's power off of. The fact that CC's are massively influenced by the willpower and mentality of the user makes it even worse.
But if we're going off of feats like that, I think that Surfer beating the Unilord(who was another multiverse’s version of Eternity) and momentarily stalemating Thanos when he first got the Infinity Gauntlet are both worth mentioning .
Surfer's energy has generated billions of terawatts of power, destroyed planets, matched Thanos's energy output, and created Blackholes. Tell me, has Sentry ever been hurt by anything less than any of those? If he has it seems to be a little unreasonable to assume that Surfer's blast will be ineffectual.
Surfer's already shown that his energetic abilities can do what no one else has been able to do when he channeled the energies of the Crunch.
You misunderstand, those are all people that Surfer's taken punches from without actually being put down.
ABC logic. Void and Sentry are different and the way that one fights is in no way “in character” for the other.
Surfer’s beaten Tenebris and Aegis, the Unilord, Mephisto, and stalemated Millinius(an Odin villain) so I think it’s safe to say that his high end track record is more impressive against single opponents of great power(which is what this fight is).
Does Sentry charge up his fist with cosmic energy when he’s punching like Thanos does against Surfer?
How can you possibly see that when you’ve never seen anything of the kind? What people on Surfer’s level has Sentry EVER delivered a beat down to?
The Big Crunch/Unilord>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sentry
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I don't think Sentry would win in a fight. Surfer still has superior feats. But Sentry's best feats prove that he would not be stomped. Curbstomping Terrax physically and taking his attacks nonchalantly is just one of them. And while some people appear to so easily dismiss it (for the life of me, I don't know why), his feats don't end there.
Surfer wins. For the soul fact he is thousands of times stronger then Sentry. Surfer has beaten enslaver who is so strong even galactus stated he doesn't want to be near him and flew off.
Sentry has BEEN SAID TO HAD A STALEMATE WITH A STARVED GALACTUS which is marvel is merely a joke. Seeing as how thats galactus in his weakest form and many others have been seen to beat him. X man, Thor, Ego, BRB managed to dent his armor and galactus told stardust to be careful, Reed. Having a stalemate is nothing.
Silver Surfer has been seen to fly hundreds of times the speeds of light if not even more. Sentry has been seen to barely be at the speed of light and just flying from the sun to earth wow....
Sentry can barely carry a hellcarrier with out the help of Wonder man and Ms. Marvel. Surfer is and has said to been able to increase his strength to any level he wants to be. To see this read his encounter with Thing. He is also on par with Thor who has pulled the midgard serpent and thats how many billions of tons??? Sentry would have a heart attack doing such things
Sentry lost to HHW when he clearly stated he wasn't holding back. Thats just said he might as well have said he was holding back. Silver Surfer on the other hand has been seen to beat Hulk in a matter of seconds if he doesn't feel like fighting. Surfer is always holding back on Hulk and even states this as he feels bad for him. Yet he barely has trouble when holding back on him.
Sentry as his most powerful was seen to make and ugly tornado made of fire capable of taking down a few buildings??? Yet he states he has the power of 1,000,000 exploding suns. Yet he has gotten tired from a fight from Hulk.........
Silver Surfer literally in his sleep nearly destroyed earth while having a bad dream. The Surfer could do more damage in his sleep in the same comic he fought Enslaver in then Sentry can do at max power while he is awake.
Surfer pwns Sentry. Sentry isn't as strong, fast, or even close to durable as Surfer. If you say Sentry wins please just know that their is something wrong with you and that you must have only seen Surfer in the movies and never in the comic.
Galactus was starved. Please don't honestly think that any other version then a starved galactus would fight Sentry. Besides that the facts are pretty clear. Galactus only comes to earth when he is hungry. He would never come to earth at full power(Although when is he ever??) just to stand their. He wouldn't destroy it because he needs to eat it. So galactus was starved when he fought Sentry who I'm sure wasn't holding back at the time.
I'm not saying that I believe that Galactus had eaten or something, I'm just saying that whether we assume he was weak or strong doesn't matter, because it's still an assumption. Even so, it's still somewhat ridiculous when people try to use it as a feat.
Btw, Kakuzu is awesome. One of my favourites, only second to Kisame
You are right. It is just an assumption made by spiderman. Spider even accidentally called ironman the strongest man on earth. When the strongest man was suppose to be count nefaria(mortal man anyway). Really it isn't a feat. Only high evolutionary and sentry have had standstill one of which we've seen. Others have actually beaten him. As a feat its no good.
Thanks lol. Kakuzu is like in my top three I put him with Gaara, an Kimimariao. Kisame is amazing lol. I count him as one of the coolest along side pein, and orochimaru. He is uber strong lol.
So Spidey call Iron Man the strongest man on Earth? That must be true because Marvel said so and they wouldn't lie. Just like Sentry Stalemated Galactus.
He thought Ironman was Sentry while he was flying which showed he was completely wrong. How can you get the colors yellow and red?? Ironman wasn't he the third strongest person? In terms of strength that would be wrong.
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