For the Pegasus creature affecting his shield, it's truly a bad showing on his part but it wasn't explained what exactly that corrosive was so it can be a plot device in this story.
like i said, it happened right after he tried to contain them.
he didn't manipulate it though. He said his blades/quantum energies just didn't affect it.
didn't i post that scan i while ago. Anyway. it didn't totally penetrate the shield. And the outcome was to his favor anyway.
GL don't also have appearances control over darkforce(which doesn't exist in DC, closest would be what shade and the shadow thief was using), magic(unless it's Sentinel), psionic(closest thing they had was the psionic blocker), etc.
And as far as the GL energy being above the em spectrum, didn't Dr. Polaris or some other villain proved it wrong before? I can't remember but i'd look up on it. Also, PC isn't part of it yet...
problem with him though is that like he is practical in how he does things ala Hal. Why would he need to transmutate things when his constructs suffice.
Also, the scans that you've put were just some of the bad showings he got some through plot devices such as the corrosive stuff pegasus shot while his shield could withstand galactus blasts. Also, some of the energies that he can't manipulate can be right after he analyzed it's energy signature. GL's are not exempt from that also...
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the soul gem -- was that adam's soul gem? i know i have that issue somewhere, but don't remember which one. from the avengers? anyway, even in your scan he was ko'd for his efforts. the scans with him battling adam are also more current if i recall the arc correctly and the fact that it happened twice in battle indicates that the soul gem is beyond him.
the IG -- again, jut shows that the gems themselves are outside his control. it makes sense that, depending on the energy they release, that q could control some of it.
the anti-matter -- he was trying to shunt it by crawing it out -- he couldn't control it himself, not directly. binary actually had a better showing than he did -- he wasn't doing enough and would have failed, so binary stepped in. q has beaten binary in the past though.
q can easily cast an illusion to make an appearance of bill. it's just light afterall.
as for polaris -- not sure. someone like validus would know better. i wish i could scan rebirth, it explains the battery and its power and the ring's power quite well. not sure it's exactly a full retcon, but at least part of it is. could be that even IF the ring acted as em before, it won't anymore.
looking through that respect thread, gl cn do a lot of things q cannot. i could post a bunch of things from it, but i'll not bother. it's there for everyone to see.
decent debate, close fight, but gl's still my man.
Dr Light was able to control the constructs fairly recently, not sure if it was before or after the retcon, it would be cutting it close though... but he has the ability to make and control hard-light constructs himself as well. So.. I dunno.
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on the other scan, he actually replicated the infinity gem's power given the analysis of it's nature and used it accordingly. But it's not the soul gem or more appropriately adam warlock's gem. It was actually an infinity gem the collector had, but back then, they haven't developed the concept of infinity gems so they called each of them a soul gem.
It's true. I believe that's a fact that he can't manipulate it without it showing some output. But anything he has analyzed (with the exception of Darkforce and magic), he has been able to replicate and manipulate. It's only when he encounters something totally new to him which is outside the em spectrum, that he is having a hard time or almost impossiple in manipulating. But giving Epoch and him enough time, he could analyze it's energy signature and be able to manipulate it. Anyway he only struck when thanos when he did let out some output from the IG. Then manipulating it, he vaporized t's body. Too bad though, cause Thanos almost immediately reformed. I wouldn't be surprised though since his enemy was a lot higher than the god he's in allignment with(infinity)
i gotta disagree with that. He was even covered with it and was almost unaffected. he only shunted it when he was trying to save moondragon since she's vulnerable. Anyway, even if did just shunt it, it was a really high feat and also, Binary who is better than him on that dept, has already been pwned by him too.
Well he can do that, but what the heck for if he had the geniune article and who would he ask to turn his body back to the way it was? Keep in mind how long he stayed away from Asgard during that time. He also has done matter manipulation to modify a person's vocal cords before. The way i see it would be the same reason why hal just mostly uses a big fist, cause it's impratical when not necessary.
Well it's true, no denying. Green Lanterns has done stuff showing more versatility in his feats. But keep in mind Quasar's appearance is a bit limited to judge only on that, considering GL's(collectively) have so many. If only Quasar was appearing regularly or if the previous wielders aside from that stupid marvel boy only managed to hang to it for a good while, i believe they could do something to replicate them. Also, unlike most GL's, he's winning streak against monster cosmic beings is too outstanding considering he's just the lone protector of the universe.
Yep, my last post here too. But likewise, on Quasar instead.
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It was Dr. Light, and that was post rebirth IIRC who handled GL. And about Rebirth, I'm not sure any of it is a retcon at all. It just seemed to me another way to explain exactly how important willpower is. I didn't get that they were saying that the output is willpower, rather the output is directly tied into the amount of willpower of the wearer. That is, lots of willpower a higher and stronger energy output, but nonetheless still energy.
If that in fact is the case and the Gl's energy is within the EM spectrum, or more specifically under Q's control, than Wendell takes this 8/10. If for some reason its not then Quasar 6/10
GL power is part of the EM Spectrum. It even behaves like regular green light, as per Hal being able to turn it yellow with some fancy velocity tweaking.
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velocity tweaking? where'd you get that?
the central battery gathers willpower`from every living being in the universe and converts it to energy that the gl's can wield. there in an 'emotional' spectrum' just as they is a colour spectrum. 'green will power' is the purest and greatest.' that directly from kyle.
since it does have a colour (hence perhaps at least SOME basis in EM) associated with it, it is possible that q could affect it in someway. i still doubt he he control or drain it, while a gl still has several advanatges over q. it IS manifest willpower, and it's impossible to say for sure q could control it. i've shown already he has trouble with some . . . 'exotic' energies.
you say yes, i say no. won't know for sure til it happens.
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Mar 22nd, 2006 01:04 AM
where'd you get that?
