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ROTJ Luke vs AOTC Ani
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Darth_Glentract
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It was a mobile Jedi Academy. It crashed on Dathomir. The Jedi negotiated to be let leave in peace if they left all the teachings on Dathomir. Luke liberated the Witches from the Nightsisters and they gave him the teachings in gratitude, allowing him to start the Jedi Praxeum.


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Janus Marius
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Interesting.

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Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
It was a mobile Jedi Academy. It crashed on Dathomir. The Jedi negotiated to be let leave in peace if they left all the teachings on Dathomir. Luke liberated the Witches from the Nightsisters and they gave him the teachings in gratitude, allowing him to start the Jedi Praxeum.


Let me guess...NJO sick

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Darth_Glentract
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No. "start the Jedi Praxeum". Although I'm not sure of the exact time, if had to have been before five years after ROTJ.


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Janus Marius
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What the hell is the deal with the audio advertisements up top??

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Darth_Glentract
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There is already a thread in the off topic section aobut how gay they are. Whatever keeps KMC free though...


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Janus Marius
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I guess. Still, the thing scares me sometimes. It just kicks on and the room is all quiet.

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Darth_Glentract
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I am playing music pretty loud, but those ads comeup WAY louder, and it is after mid-night here and I am not supposed to be up anymore(sucks being a kid).


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Janus Marius
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I have headphones on, and tonight I'm not in the mood for sounds, so there's no music playing.

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Originally posted by Deus Ex
I have headphones on, and tonight I'm not in the mood for sounds, so there's no music playing.


I never get audio popups..fact I never get popups period...

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Darth_Glentract
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not popups. adds at the top of the screen


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not popups. adds at the top of the screen


I have never had one of those that makes noise either.

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Janus Marius
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Just wait then.

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Janus Marius
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This thread also needs pics.

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The advantages of add block


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At least I have crazy frog audio adds! Ring ding ding ding ding ding!


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Luke may be, cannonically, one of the most powerful Jedi, he actually MAY be.......he just SHOULDN'T be.......his whole story of coming to the power he has in NJO isn't the greatest story of hardcore Jedi Training.

It's better to keep the semi-demi-god Jedi in the past, when the Sith and Dark Side were much more rampant and powerful than post-Imperial Regime.

I agree that he shouldn't be and in ROTJ he shouldn't be stronger than AOTC Anakin but what Lucas says is what Lucas says.
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First off, using numbers like this is ridiculous, because this isn't an exact science. They don't have stats, and there are so many variables it's unreal.

How is it unreal? Sure there's lots of viariables but this is the most sound proof we've got.
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Second, anyone on KMC or another site saying that Yoda is twice or three times as powerful compared to AOTC Anakin isn't a reliable canon source. Not even a good beginning for inferences.

Hmm, I guess I should have got you to say Yoda was more than twice as powerful as AOTC Anakin before I posted my proof.
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And third, the phrase is half trained jedi, not halfway to NJO. If anything, the Jedi Academy series is halfway to NJO, not ROTJ. So trying to say that ROTJ Luke is half as good as NJO Luke is seriously off base.

Sorry, I should have said at least half as good. And I said 1/2 trained Luke. If he is fully trained in NJO that'd mean NJO Luke is twice as strong as ROTJ Luke. So ROTJ Luke X 2 = At least as strong as NJO Luke.
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It's simple; watch the movies.

Hey. Listen to George Lucas. Guess what buddy. He's the creater of Star Wars. Whatever he says goes. Deal with it.
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AOTC Anakin fought hordes of Geonosians, survived a firefight in the middle of an open arena, slaughtered an entire Tusken Raider village, and even held his own against Dooku for longer than Obi-Wan did. ROTJ Luke barely took on the crew of Jabba's sailbarge.

Anakin fought hordes of genonsians and lost. So he took out 30 or 40 Tuskens. Big deal. So he held his own against Dooku for nearly a minute. Luke beat Vader. And Luke didn't barely beat jabba's crew. He had no trouble with them. And it'd take a strong Jedi to take out all of Jabba's crew.
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Janus Marius
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More Darthsith19 obsfucation...


I agree that he shouldn't be and in ROTJ he shouldn't be stronger than AOTC Anakin but what Lucas says is what Lucas says.

Lucas said that ROTJ Luke is stronger than AOTC Anakin and would most likely beat him in combat? I doubt this.


How is it unreal? Sure there's lots of viariables but this is the most sound proof we've got.


Variables make for an uncertain outcome, and you would have to consider every variable, not just the ones you want to accept. This is like saying SW characters have power levels that are constant, like in DBZ or something. It's ridiculous.


Hmm, I guess I should have got you to say Yoda was more than twice as powerful as AOTC Anakin before I posted my proof.


What difference would that have made? Your argument doesn't add up so far. And you're making it out of completely ad hoc hearsay and not based on anything from the movies.


Sorry, I should have said at least half as good. And I said 1/2 trained Luke. If he is fully trained in NJO that'd mean NJO Luke is twice as strong as ROTJ Luke. So ROTJ Luke X 2 = At least as strong as NJO Luke.


Is ROTJ is half as good as NJO Luke, NJO Luke must really suck. I think you are taking his words out of context; if he said half-trained jedi, this doesn't mean half-trained altogether. Jedi is NOT equal to jedi master. In ROTJ, Luke was earning his right to be a jedi. If he was even half of NJO Luke (Who is a virtual Force god) then he would have been strong enough to oppose Sidious then, and strong enough to oppose the reborn Emperor in the DE series. But he wasn't. He never showed any ability on par with even half of NJO Luke, and he didn't show any ability that would beat Anakin from AOTC. Period.


Hey. Listen to George Lucas. Guess what buddy. He's the creater of Star Wars. Whatever he says goes. Deal with it.


Uh huh. You never did prove half of your so-called GL statements.


Anakin fought hordes of genonsians and lost. So he took out 30 or 40 Tuskens. Big deal. So he held his own against Dooku for nearly a minute. Luke beat Vader. And Luke didn't barely beat jabba's crew. He had no trouble with them. And it'd take a strong Jedi to take out all of Jabba's crew.
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And this right here is championing Luke and downplaying Anakin horribly. "it'd take a strong jedi to take out Jabba's crew." Seriously... TPM Obi-Wan could annihilate that entire sail barge. Less than a dozen had blasters.

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aotc would butcher him, he killed thousands of droids and genosians as well as an entire village of sand raiders, luke killed some wannabe thugs and an asthmatic half dead robot. Luuke's swordsmanship was far weaker then anakins and he had less then half anakins raw power maybe 80% at best, luke never does anything THAT impressive until NJO and njo is both annoying and crap.


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Lucas said that ROTJ Luke is stronger than AOTC Anakin and would most likely beat him in combat? I doubt this.

Janus, I have supplied proof that he said this. What more do you want?
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Variables make for an uncertain outcome, and you would have to consider every variable, not just the ones you want to accept. This is like saying SW characters have power levels that are constant, like in DBZ or something. It's ridiculous.

Janus, I have provided proof out of GL's own mouth. Want to continue debating? Then do me a favor and debate with Lucas.
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What difference would that have made? Your argument doesn't add up so far. And you're making it out of completely ad hoc hearsay and not based on anything from the movies.

From the movies? I have posted plenty from the movies. Luke took out all of Jabba's guards. Anakin got defeated by a group of measley Geonosians. Anakin didn't last a minute against Tyranus and had Obi-Wan not been there wouldn't have even gotten a chance to clash sabers with him. Luke beat Vader. If that isn't enough for you GL's quotes provide proof. Deal with it. Suck it up. Learn the truth.
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Is ROTJ is half as good as NJO Luke, NJO Luke must really suck.

Nah, that'd make him stronger than Sidious.
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if he said half-trained jedi, this doesn't mean half-trained altogether. Jedi is NOT equal to jedi master.

Jedi is anything from Youngling to Master. Yoda is a Jedi. Luke is a Jedi. Zett Jukesta is a Jedi. A fully trained Jedi would be Jeid at his full potential, whether it be Master or Knight. Jedi doesn't mean jedi Knight Jedi means Jedi.
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In ROTJ, Luke was earning his right to be a jedi.

A Jedi Knight. All Jedi under training are considered Jedi.
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If he was even half of NJO Luke (Who is a virtual Force god) then he would have been strong enough to oppose Sidious then, and strong enough to oppose the reborn Emperor in the DE series.

At least 1/2 as strong as NJO Luke. And he was obviously not as strong as Sidious yet.
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Uh huh. You never did prove half of your so-called GL statements.

WTF are you talking about? Look at my replies!
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And this right here is championing Luke and downplaying Anakin horribly. "it'd take a strong jedi to take out Jabba's crew." Seriously... TPM Obi-Wan could annihilate that entire sail barge. Less than a dozen had blasters.

Obi-Wan? Maybe. And where's the proof that leff than a dozen had blasters?

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