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Adam Warlock
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You guys should grow up. Bashing GS indirectly. Pffttt... Whatever.

In GS's defense, his posts are very long and essay like, but it's just an opinion. Many of you seem to go out your way to prove him wrong, and make him feel like he's stupid for ever bringing up his opinions. Most people here are very well informed and educated, but still, there are some people on this forum even though educated, go out of their way to make people who post their sincere opinions and try to debunk those opinions then gloat about it to feed their own ego's.

I think I gonna spend more time with my children then on this forum. My kids seem to behave better. If any of you do have children in the future, I pray to god they don't turn out like their parents.


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Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
you are truly machiavellian, whirly...

the scans back there don't really show anything either. reed guesses that his will to learn created the universe, and the creature says "only one way to be sure..."

besides which, both reed and the creature where created well after the universe.

ya but jean was also born in the Universe was she not?

The cosmic guy and reed actually make the universe and create Order.

he even says We

Reed and I = Creation and you he actully creates all of creation not just says it.

no theories needed


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Originally posted by Adam Warlock
You guys should grow up. Bashing GS indirectly. Pffttt... Whatever.

In GS's defense, his posts are very long and essay like, but it's just an opinion. Many of you seem to go out your way to prove him wrong, and make him feel like he's stupid for ever bringing up his opinions. Most people here are very well informed and educated, but still, there are some people on this forum even though educated, go out of their way to make people who post their sincere opinions and try to debunk those opinions then gloat about it to feed their own ego's.

I think I gonna spend more time with my children then on this forum. My kids seem to behave better. If any of you do have children in the future, I pray to god they don't turn out like their parents.


OK mate - bye smile have fun with that smile


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I gently advised him about getting too wrapped up in Phoenix; Marvel has changed their minds in the past about her and would again, but he didn't hear me.


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ya but jean was also born in the Universe was she not?

The cosmic guy and reed actually make the universe and create Order.

he even says We

Reed and I = Creation and you he actully creates all of creation not just says it.

no theories needed


exactly smile


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they didn't DO anything, cosmic guy (he got hurt by bullets and could barely teleport) was SHOWING reed.

besides which, PF was (presumably) around since the universe,


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I gently advised him about getting too wrapped up in Phoenix; Marvel has changed their minds in the past about her and would again, but he didn't hear me.



So true as did I smile

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Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
you are truly machiavellian, whirly...

the scans back there don't really show anything either. reed guesses that his will to learn created the universe, and the creature says "only one way to be sure..."

besides which, both reed and the creature where created well after the universe.

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they didn't DO anything, cosmic guy (he got hurt by bullets and could barely teleport) was SHOWING reed.

besides which, PF was (presumably) around since the universe,
start of the universe.

it's he didn't do anything? You are saying he didn't make the Universe?

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Big Cosmic Rabbit makes the Marvel Universe here

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start of the universe.

it's he didn't do anything? You are saying he didn't make the Universe?


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So true as did I smile



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Am I the only one that sees this as being almost identical to what happened when Krona looked back to see the dawn of creation in DC? What's with these 2 companies stealing eachother's stories? First Zero Hour and The End, now this and the Krona story. If some character named "The Anti-Viewer" pops up because of this, Marvel is going to receive some hate mail.

This is easily open to interpretation, but I don't think this means somehow Reed is God, moreso that thought and existence are one and the same, which is a part of quantam theory.

It doesn't really somehow depower Phoenix either.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but from the scans, it could be interpreted that the initial thought simply produces the spark which is what has come to be known as Phoenix, and the Space Bunny is an evolved being from the previous thought, which was probably "How?". Their are infinite questions and infinite possibilities. Reed's experience just happens to be one of them.

I'm just looking at things objectively.

I always had Phoenix as Living Tribunal's co-worker, at the most, and one retcon away from being obsolete. I was one of GS's main opponents. This new development doesn't really solve the problem as much as pose more questions.

First of which being who is the Cosmic Bucky O'Hare?


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"but from the scans, it could be interpreted that the initial thought simply produces the spark which is what has come to be known as Phoenix,"
I thought the same thing. Can't really agree with ALL of that though.


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Originally posted by illadelph12
Am I the only one that sees this as being almost identical to what happened when Krona looked back to see the dawn of creation in DC? What's with these 2 companies stealing eachother's stories? First Zero Hour and The End, now this and the Krona story. If some character named "The Anti-Viewer" pops up because of this, Marvel is going to receive some hate mail.

This is easily open to interpretation, but I don't think this means somehow Reed is God, moreso that thought and existence are one and the same, which is a part of quantam theory.

It doesn't really somehow depower Phoenix either.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but from the scans, it could be interpreted that the initial thought simply produces the spark which is what has come to be known as Phoenix, and the Space Bunny is an evolved being from the previous thought, which was probably "How?". Their are infinite questions and infinite possibilities. Reed's experience just happens to be one of them.

I'm just looking at things objectively.

I always had Phoenix as Living Tribunal's co-worker, at the most, and one retcon away from being obsolete. I was one of GS's main opponents. This new development doesn't really solve the problem as much as pose more questions.

First of which being who is the Cosmic Bucky O'Hare?


I see the first part - I see no mention of Phoenix or its White hot room outside of time etc - I see this, order being created from chaos by Reed - I thought this was all Phoenixs job confused That she did all this, why's Reed needed then? smile

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once again, illadelph says what i'm thinking


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Originally posted by Adam Warlock
You guys should grow up. Bashing GS indirectly. Pffttt... Whatever.

In GS's defense, his posts are very long and essay like, but it's just an opinion. Many of you seem to go out your way to prove him wrong, and make him feel like he's stupid for ever bringing up his opinions. Most people here are very well informed and educated, but still, there are some people on this forum even though educated, go out of their way to make people who post their sincere opinions and try to debunk those opinions then gloat about it to feed their own ego's.

I think I gonna spend more time with my children then on this forum. My kids seem to behave better. If any of you do have children in the future, I pray to god they don't turn out like their parents.


I have three words for you .... Superman Respect Thread ! wink

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smile Phoenix meet "Rabbit", Rabbit meet Phoenix -

Phoenix meet Xornetto

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once again, illadelph says what i'm thinking


So you were taken in guys - its cool this is who did it smile don't cling to the past embrace the wave of the future - embrace Rabbit smile

Heres the trickster again smile looks pretty shifty to me wink

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