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Originally posted by Arahan
Aunt May is from Marvel she could kick Supes ass

The idea that Spidermans powers are totemistic sounds good to me.
I like the idea, Offfers some intersting new stories. (i hope)

And I really tried to bring you guys back to topic....

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Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I have... absolutely no idea what you were talking about there...

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Originally posted by iceman24567
I couldn't bring myself to read that and the fact that he's as old as mother pretty much makes me not feel bad about it no offense Cap'n plus i think Diana is stronger than She-Hulk.

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Originally posted by Cap'n Happy
What I... meant there was this: most of these posts had Wonder Woman being "near cosmic level" in power. I think this is ridiculous. Historically, she's never been displayed at this power level. I don't care about a comic book from a few weeks ago. I don't care what a current story line says (story lines come and go, and bad story lines are discreetly forgotten about all the time). Not everything that happens in a comic book sticks, and becomes part of the cannon. Superman once had "super ventriliquisom- he could not only imitate any persons voice, he could "throw it" half way around the world if he wanted to. I don't see him using this power lately. Big changes (Wonder Woman being cosmic level power) have to be true over a long period of time, and it has to be explicitly stated that there has been a major change in the character- and that change has to stick, or it's not "true". That's all I'm saying. If you still don't follow... well buddy, I don't know what to tell you.

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Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I have... absolutely no idea what you were talking about there...

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Originally posted by horrorwolf
I say Wonderwoman takes this based on speed advantages and pure fighting knowlege.

However feats like helping move the moon and other BS is based on flight abilities which doesnt count. Its like when Superman moves massive meteors with flight but can barely manage to punch Grundy down the block. It's not a physical strength feat but inertia-based on flight capabilities.

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Originally posted by *T*
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Anyway WW wins without speed/flight anyway.

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Originally posted by Cap'n Happy
I'm 45- probably read my first comic before most of you were born. One thing I've learned over the years is that comics are a lot like rock-n-roll... you cant take it too seriously 'cause after all, it's only rock-n-roll. Then again, you better take it damm seriously, cause God gave rock-n-roll to you (as KISS has taught us). The trick is to know which attitude to take, and when. Ex: when you see characters (even power-houses like Supes, MM, and Wonder Woman) move the frick'n moon, you need to take it with a grain of salt. Just because a thing happens in a comic doesn't make it "true". The "truth" of comic characters takes time to accrue and gel. The "truth" is that which is at the core of the character, that which has been most consistant over the long haul. When a hack writer shows things like moving the moon, blowing out a star with super breath... you can pretty much dismiss it, unless we're talking about cosmic/magic practioners of the very highest order. And Wonder Woman is neither. What she is is is a very powerfull, very formidable, hero- one who has traditionaly been snow to have about the fourth of the strength of Superman (ok, I'll give her the benifit of the doubt and make it half of Big Blue's strength)- this is no insult; half of Superman is still pretty awsome. But lifting oil tankers with ease? Moving the moon? Please.
As I see it, She Hulk is maybe a hair stronger than Wonder Woman, but way out classed by Diana's speed and combat skills. Throw in the bracelets, lasso, et al, Wondy cleans her clock after a short bout. And I didn't have to resort to grossly distorting her power to come to the correct conslusion either.

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Originally posted by roughrider
When will people realize...moving a moon, dragging a planet like War World, doesn't count as a feat of strength.
I'm crazy? Listen.
The source of Superman's powers have often been discussed. There is enough to reason his power of flight, like most who don't use magic or technology, is psionics. It could never be super-leaps - that's what the Hulk does - because to stop and hold yourself in mid air is power from the mind. Flying with something heavy is letting the power from the mind take the will of the object. Even if one could physically push a moon or planet by strength, it would be impossible unless you were standing on an object of greater mass, to push off of ie. A Bigger Planet. The power that drives someone to fly through the air, is the same power used to move any object of huge mass. How much mass, depends on the willpower capability of the hero. If the Silver Surfer used the Power Cosmic to push a planet, no one would think it was a feat of strength. But it is the same principle: power from the mind, not muscle. This is something that applies to Supes, Wonder Woman, Martain Manhunter and others.

Back to this...I haven't seen She-Hulk since her strength and skill got a good upgrade, but I think Diana's speed on the ground could still give her an edge to win most matchups.