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What do you expect? Basically, Spider-man is a *****. He's always doubting himself and he never wants to hurt anyone. He's always having girl troubles and he's always sick. One of his loved ones are always in danger or he's homeless and turning into a spider. The man is one excuse after another.
He's not a billionaire and doesn't live for free in a billionaire's house. Half his Peter Parker friends try to kill his Spider-man persona, the other half switches every other Sunday. All of his non-murderous friends are old people or his wife and they can't do anything to defend themselves. And... is he a teacher still?
Motha****er has bills, problems, and papers to grade. It's like he's a composite of what all the black comedians describe themselves as.
I challenge you to find a moment where things were just peachy in Spiderman's life. Because I bet a second later he turned into a spider clone or a random article of clothing ended up being an alien.
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I see Spidey taking a large majority here. NC's teleportation abilities aren't EXACTLY instantaneous from what I understand. Unless I'm mistaken, Wolverine has been shown to be able to smell the brimstone from NC's teleporting, and react before NC finished. In my mind, that means that Peter's spidey sense would be able to register NC in time to allow Peter to dodge also(since I personally place him just ahead of Wolverine in the speed department). I'm not saying NC CAN'T win, but I see Spiderman taking 7 or 8 out of 10.
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I cosign with all of this. Spider-Man should have a better chance of detecting NC's 'porting than Logan, due to the SS and much greater reflexes. Additionally, even if NC tries a teleport blitz, he will fatigue eventually and his human+ punches won't have much of an effect on post-Other Spidey. After that, Spider-Man could likely down Kurt in one blow.
You seem to forget that Spidey's powers were actually lower when he and NC first faced off (class 2-5 strength, slower speed). Spidey has gotten better and NC even admitted during Secret Wars, after Peter pwned him with webbing.
All Nightcrawler has gained is experience since that first battle. Peter has gotten stronger, gained experience, and received more upgrades since that first battle. Post-Other Peter should take this fight 8/10.
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There are some screwy moments with Nightcrawler's teleport. I even remember one scan of someone saying "I sense an atmosphere disturbance." in the time it look him to appear.
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Nightcrawler needs to get close in order to attack. Spideys reflexes and spidersense and speed should give him the neccesary means to strike Nightcrawler. nightcrawler are not that durable, he will die from one or two punches.
Spiderman, 10/10, this is not even up for debating
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and i can bring up more scans of wolverine beating spiderman up but I have done it to much and the spiderman fans hate it so im not going to do it again and waste time. Cap has also owned spiderman but his speed is suppose to be great. nightcrawler has owned spiderman so deal with it and spiderman strength was in the 10 ton range, I dont know where you got 2-5 tons from and for you to be commenting on nightcrawler strength to knock spiderman out, spiderman seemed pretty dizzy then when nightcrawler was tapping on that head. That fight was one sided the entire comic. Nightcrawler owned spiderman throughout that comic. The only thing that spiderman upgrades is going to do is make him last a little longer against nightcrawler and a nightcrawler that is going all out would mud stomp spiderman. I have so much to say. Now lets go with this wolverine thing. Wolverine is a tactical fighter (when he wants to be). He know what nightcrawler is capable of and he knows how to exploit weaknesses in nightcrawler (due to his super sense of hearing, seeing, and he has a nose that can tell him where his opponent is hiding etc....). Spiderman on the other hand have a spidersense that only advise him of danger, it dont advise him of where the danger is coming from but it advise him of the danger. Spiderman spidersence is so overrated that it makes me sick. If kingpin and vulture can tag spiderman numerous of times during battle then anyone with a good fighting advantage and decent speed should be able to tag spiderman a lot also (which shows up in all of spiderman comics, recently the guy just got koed by a human in a frog suit.).Nightcrawler takes the majority plain and simple and if this is the nightcrawler from aoa then spiderman is dead as soon as they encounter each other because this nightcrawler didnt care and he was well versed with his powers and he also carried 2 swords with him. Wolverine has a healing factor to help him with the damage that nightcrawler gives him but the same cant be said for spiderman. Nightcrawler has enough strength to put spiderman down, he even had wolverine seeing stars as death. Now if your telling me that spiderman can take as much punishment as wolverine then you dont know what the hell your talking about. Spidey on his best day cant take as much punishment as wolverine and nightcrawler had wolverine on his back ( due to the fact that nightcrawler also knows martial arts of his own and knows how to connect blows). Spiderman can be hit
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and I think that nightcrawler will land 100s of more blows than spiderman would and spiderman 1 punch or 2 or 3 punches aint taking no nightcrawler out when he have taken punches from stronger opponents (just look at the fight when the xmen was going against a character that was said to be as powerful as juggernaut, this was during the time that they thought that x23 killed innocent people. He took a punch from someone that was over the 100 ton mark and while flying backwards from the punch, teleported and started fighting again.) This is a fight that spiderman isnt winning and due to the fact that kurt is as agile and as fast as spiderman, he could teleport and if he sees spiderman trying to connect a lick, dodge and teleport a millisecond behind spiderman hitting him or 6 times in the back of the head. Kurt beat spiderman without teleporting, without going to the max, what do you think that a full outgoing kurt will do to spiderman.
He'll probably teleport(at which point Spidey will dodge just as Wolverine can), and then get knocked out or killed when Spidey lays into him with a full force punch.
Your a funny guy. Well i kind of agree with you since spiderman did get a strength increase and his strength is in the 100 ton range now. By the way wolverine also dodged spiderman like he was nothing and also whooped his a** whipped. By the way can we look at spiderman excellent dodging, hes just running circles around wolverine and if you combine that with spiderman 100 ton strength then he would win.
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