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Originally posted by Gideon
Who the hell voted for Darth Krayt? There's a better argument for REX's ass being the most powerful Sith Lord than Krayt.

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Originally posted by Apollo Cloud

3. Darth Malak
4. Darth Revan

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Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
Bane actually did move a moon: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...%29+forumid%3A6 .

Even disregarding that feat, Bane's still firmly above Vader, so it's not like it matters too much.

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Originally posted by The Sith'ari
I've made this thread in response to people wanting me to prove that Bane pulled a moon out of orbit, even though he's never actually shown to do so, so here's my argument.

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Originally posted by ESB -1138
The first paragraph voids that entire agrument



He said it himself, "he's never actually shown to do so."

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Originally posted by Nikkolas
Eh?

If Bane really moved a moon, I don't see how Vader would be stronger than him.

But if he didn't, then alright.

I stil don't count Revan. I'll think of someone else.

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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Why people are even arguing in this thread, since the name - Darth Sidious is already in the list.

Darth Sidious by DE surpassed all in terms of power and skill.

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Originally posted by Nikkolas
Galen, I know you're trying to learn more about SW so I'll do what I can to inform you about the Sith.

First and foremost, if you ever hear anyone say "the Ancient Sith pown new age Sith" don't believe it. It's totally crap and baseless. Naga Sadow, one of the most infamous Ancient Sith, did really nothing except throw a brick with The Force. The accounts of him blowing up stars is clearly stated to be done through his Flagship's technology. This tech could be used by even weaklings lin the Force.

The most powerful Sith Lord EVER is a new age Sith. The Sith is known as Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious. Sources to back this up:

Page 109 from the Dark Empire sourcebook:

"Palpatine has risen from the dead. The most powerful Sith Lord who ever lived had returned."

Empire's End, one of the Sith spirits: "He gave up everything to the Dark Side long ago. He has become the greatest who ever lived. He is the strongest who ever lived....I say we give what he wishes."

Star Wars Insider, Kevin J. Anderson, upon asked if he ever intended his Sith to be stronger than the OT sith: "No. Exar Kun, Naga Sadow and the others are on a firmly lower tier than Emperor Palpatine."

On TFN.net, official response to the strongest Sith: "Palpatine at his peak."

Essential Chronology: "the most powerful Sith who had ever lived, Emperor Palpatine had returned from the grave."

Now you know comics so you'll be well versed in people calling narrative hyperbole. Take into note these feats along with those quotes:

Palpatine learned a Force Storm. It is is an attack that rips apart the fabric of existence and space-time. It can do everything from create a wormhole to move a person lightyears to ravage the surface of a planet to annihilate starfleets. Palpatine uses Force lightning with enough power to kill 100 augmented Strormtroopers effortlessly. Same lightning reduced 3 dark siders strong enough to resurrect Darth Maul to charred skeletons.

His battle with Luke in Dark Empire, according to the audio, had enough energy sent off to kill nearby Stormtroopers. He also can drain planets of their energy.

This brings us to Darth Nihilus. I'm thinking of him as possibly the second strongest Sith.

"He is a wound in the Force, more presence than flesh, and in his wake life dies… sacrificing itself to his hunger."
―Visas Marr [

"One cannot have power of that magnitude and still think and perceive the universe as we do."
―Kreia

Nihilus' power is more his nature than his abilities. Whereas people like Palpatine and Exar Kun gain their strengh through learning the ways of the Sith and the like, Nihilus is just a natural force and blight on The Force itself. Everything that is alive serves to be drained by him and everything he consumes adds to his power. In a way, he is the "ultimate" dark side user as he does not really want to rule the galaxy...or destroy the Jedi. All he wants is to feed his hunger for power and that power comes from death.

I think that's all right.

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Originally posted by The big EH
mustafar didn't weaken his connection to the force, it just weakenned his body to a point where he couldn't even use force lightning, as anakin managed to live on like obi-wan, yoda and qui-gon did except the fact that it was his connection to force that let him live on, though because of that he didn't last as long as obi-wan

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Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
Bane actually did move a moon: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...%29+forumid%3A6 .

Even disregarding that feat, Bane's still firmly above Vader, so it's not like it matters too much.