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Crimson Phoenix
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Theres a difference between your powers directly creating something without your conscious willing of it and accidentally ripping a hole in reality which itself results in something.

The former is a direct manifestation of her power, the latter is just something her power was a catalyst for.


But the fact is she caused the tear, with her powers, and it was her reality warp that spread into the omniverses a result of that tear she caused.

Shadow king said it himself (though not about the choas wave) A cosmic whim, caused by wanda, formed cracks in ALL realities, which was how he ws freed.


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But the fact is she caused the tear, with her powers, and it was her reality warp that spread into the omniverses a result of that tear she caused.

Shadow king said it himself (though not about the choas wave) A cosmic whim, caused by wanda, formed cracks in ALL realities, which was how he ws freed.


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Wanda's initial Reality Warp was Global, and then it expanded across the 616 Universe:

This is why the it's clearly stated that the entire 616 Universe was Warped:




(from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 2006 Saturnyne bio)

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"She (Saturnyne) was later present on Otherworld when Dimension-616 was Engulfed

in the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp ...


Saturnyne showed little hesitation in suggesting destroying 616 to Prevent the Warp SPREADING"





Here is that scene On Panel,




Satynyne talking about the Chaos Wave or as the Official Bio puts it,

the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp:

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"Your Dimension is a Cancer,

bringing Devastation to Branes ALL ALONG the SIDEREAL STRING ...


Sparing Yours condemns the REST"







The NEXT time around Wanda Warps the 616 Universe entirely:




"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again"

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ON PANEL with the Bio vs the back side of covers. laughing


Roma was talking about the initial Warp,

the Warp as we all know was spreading, it literally Warped ALL of the 616 Reality:


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"She (Saturnyne) was later present on Otherworld when Dimension-616 was Engulfed

in the Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp"




Is that all you got as a defense? The back side of Covers?


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But the fact is she caused the tear, with her powers, and it was her reality warp that spread into the omniverses a result of that tear she caused.

Shadow king said it himself (though not about the choas wave) A cosmic whim, caused by wanda, formed cracks in ALL realities, which was how he ws freed.


Wanda caused the tear, this tear caused a reaction which was the chaos wave. The rules of reality that Wanda had messed about with on Earth 616 conflicted with that which was beyond the tear. It was a seepage. It wasnt something directly created and powered by Wanda and maintained across its interdimensional rampage. It was just seepage from what she had done to the planet. That is why it isnt a feat of hers.

If Storm generated a hurricane and then left it and went to bed. If the hurricane spun out of control causing damage across the U.S that damage wouldnt be a feat of Storms. She never controlled and maintained the hurricane, she JUST set it in motion.

Either way, Wandas direct feat as stated on panel by Roma and in the issues of multiple issues of both Exiles and Uncanny X-men was the warping of reality of Earth 616.


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Wanda caused the tear, this tear caused a reaction which was the chaos wave. The rules of reality that Wanda had messed about with on Earth 616 conflicted with that which was beyond the tear. It was a seepage. It wasnt something directly created and powered by Wanda and maintained across its interdimensional rampage. It was just seepage from what she had done to the planet. That is why it isnt a feat of hers.

If Storm generated a hurricane and then left it and went to bed. If the hurricane spun out of control causing damage across the U.S that damage wouldnt be a feat of Storms. She never controlled and maintained the hurricane, she JUST set it in motion.

Either way, Wandas direct feat as stated on panel by Roma and in the issues of multiple issues of both Exiles and Uncanny X-men was the warping of reality of Earth 616.


Erm...i'm sorry that doesnt really make sense. Even if its seepage, its still came from her. It was still her reality warp that caiused all the chaos. Its stated in other comics (i.e Mr Masters scans) that it was HER reality warp.

And you seem to think that she only altered reality on a global level..then why was the kree and skrull affected? She was evenable to tear Dormammu (sp?) out of his dimension whilts in a coma Her powers go more than beond just 616 Earth


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Erm...i'm sorry that doesnt really make sense. Even if its seepage, its still came from her. It was still her reality warp that caiused all the chaos. Its stated in other comics (i.e Mr Masters scans) that it was HER reality warp.

And you seem to think that she only altered reality on a global level..then why was the kree and skrull affected? She was evenable to tear Dormammu (sp?) out of his dimension whilts in a coma Her powers go more than beond just 616 Earth


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Where you been at?

Most cats know the truth as its presented with proof but are afraid to speak up,

or, they know making sense with an intransigent mind is a hopeless cause.

personally,

I've given up on trying to convince that individual even with overwhelming evidence.

I continue on for the onlookers (innocent and not) I will not allow them to be fooled.


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Where you been at?

Most cats know the truth as its presented with proof but are afraid to speak up,

or, they know making sense with an intransigent mind is a hopeless cause.

personally,

I've given up on trying to convince that individual even with overwhelming evidence.

I continue on for the onlookers (innocent and not) I will not allow them to be fooled.


lol

i've been around, i just havent been poting that much till recently. i've seen that topics like these always end up like this, so i'd thought i'd lend a helping hand big grin


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