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fallen one was supposed to be a badass herald. thanos had to save galactus...i think terrax would kill firleord as evident by morg not even giving firelord the time of day. he was nothing. to him. butt the thread itnt even about this. its about hal crushing firelord who has alwys been a midtier cosmic herlad buried in the middle of this esteemed group. hal and kyle are one and two of a group of thousands. even u agree firelord is third to list of a number in the double digits. big difference.


Firelord is mid-tier? Is that what you just said? Wow. Firelord is an elite top tier, only below Surfer and Morg in the rankings of the heralds. Terrax didnt even look superior to Morg in that fight against Morg. Firelord actually lasted longer than Terrax, people just give Terrax the benefit of the doubt because Terrax had the guts to fight close-up with Morg while Firelord fougth smart and kept his distance. So try again. And im not talking about only the Morg instance. I want to see you try to refute ALL the points i made of Firelord being superior to Terrax. Here's my points again:

When Terrax fought Thor, Thor KILLED him with ease.
-When Terrax fought The Thing and Human Torch, Ben hit Terrax so hard he was doing escape velocity.
-When Terrax fought Surfer, Surfer owned him easily.
-When Terrax fought Morg, Terrax needed Morg's major offense, his Axe, and still got his ass kicked quickly.
-When Terrax fought WOL Morg, they matched Axes, but Terrax' axe quickly broke within a page and he got put down in one forearm shot from Morg. Then later on when Morg lost the PC and Terrax went after him, Terrax still got thrown around.
-When Terrax fought the Annihilation Wave, Terrax got beaten and captured easily by just a handful of seekers.
-When Terrax fought the Hulk (Exiles), Terrax got his ass kicked.
-Terrax's most impressive feat is probably slicing that planet in half in Annihilation: Heralds #1.

-Every time Firelord has fought Thor, Firelord has been shown and stated superior (except for one time).
-When Firelord fought the Thing and Human Torch, Firelord easily blasted Ben away, and owned the Human Torch easily.
-Every time Firelord has fought Surfer, Firelord has been shown quite well, and they both have 3 wins over each other, and every win Surfer got over Firelord, Firelord really made him work for it (and vice versa).
-When Firelord fought Morg, Morg cheapshotted him, quickly knocked out Air-Walker, and Firelord still did pretty good against Morg, though this was the ONLY time Terrax ever looked superior to Firelord.
-When Firelord fought WOL Morg, he kept his distance and lasted longer than Terrax, and it took an angry swing of Morg's axe across Firelord's chest to put him down. Also, when Morg lost the PC later on that issue, Firelord put him on the ground in one blast.
-When Firelord fought the Annihilation Wave, Firelord easily beat the handful of seekers that came after him, then went and saved Red Shift and Surfer, and then, along with Stardust and Red Shift, was holding off the Wave for 6 months. He also took down a flagship, and Ravenous. And afterwards, he even took down the Centurions single-handedly.
-When Firelord fought the Hulk, he killed the Hulk in two blasts.
-Firelord destroyed a planet-sized meteor easily many years back, and then not too long ago destroyed a planet easily as well. Also, he took down 5 worlds full of Centurions.

And Fallen One didnt prove jack shit. Thanos didnt have to save anybody from anybody. Galactus is far superior to Thanos and Thanos and Galactus utterly owned the shit out of Fallen One, and would any time they ever fought. Dont try to say otherwise because it was proven on panel that Fallen One was nothing but a punk. He looked cool but that was pretty much all he had going for him.

And just for the record, the Average herald >>>> the average GL, and the high end Heralds >> the high end GLs. So that comparison of yours means nothing. I mean, Colossus is the most powerful of the Astonishing X-Men, which are like 6 or 7 members, yet Surfer is the most powerful of the Defenders which are only 4, and he's far more powerful than Colossus. Just a simple example.


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by mid tier i meant in the herald raninks. hes not in the top four. so he is midtier but this isnt what is being debated its top 2 green lanterns for this human torch wannabe. firleord loses to hal and kyle bad.


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by mid tier i meant in the herald raninks. hes not in the top four. so he is midtier but this isnt what is being debated its top 2 green lanterns for this human torch wannabe. firleord loses to hal and kyle bad.


Dont just ignore my entire post or i wont debate with you because obviously you're an idiot who doesnt know jack shit about Firelord and is just mouthing off shit. Im done debating with you you're just too damn stupid. But before i go, ill try one more time and maybe it'll sink in....

Firelord is in the top 3 of the heralds. He's above Terrax, Air-Walker, Nova, Fallen One, Red Shift, and Stardust. He's only below Morg and Surfer. Terrax isnt even fourth. Or fifth. This is the order of heralds from most to least powerful:

Morg/Surfer
Firelord
Red Shift/Stardust
Terrax
Air-Walker
Nova

Here's my proof right here (again) that Terrax doesnt have jack shit on Firelord:

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When Terrax fought Thor, Thor KILLED him with ease.
-When Terrax fought The Thing and Human Torch, Ben hit Terrax so hard he was doing escape velocity.
-When Terrax fought Surfer, Surfer owned him easily.
-When Terrax fought Morg, Terrax needed Morg's major offense, his Axe, and still got his ass kicked quickly.
-When Terrax fought WOL Morg, they matched Axes, but Terrax' axe quickly broke within a page and he got put down in one forearm shot from Morg. Then later on when Morg lost the PC and Terrax went after him, Terrax still got thrown around.
-When Terrax fought the Annihilation Wave, Terrax got beaten and captured easily by just a handful of seekers.
-When Terrax fought the Hulk (Exiles), Terrax got his ass kicked.
-Terrax's most impressive feat is probably slicing that planet in half in Annihilation: Heralds #1.

-Every time Firelord has fought Thor, Firelord has been shown and stated superior (except for one time).
-When Firelord fought the Thing and Human Torch, Firelord easily blasted Ben away, and owned the Human Torch easily.
-Every time Firelord has fought Surfer, Firelord has been shown quite well, and they both have 3 wins over each other, and every win Surfer got over Firelord, Firelord really made him work for it (and vice versa).
-When Firelord fought Morg, Morg cheapshotted him, quickly knocked out Air-Walker, and Firelord still did pretty good against Morg, though this was the ONLY time Terrax ever looked superior to Firelord.
-When Firelord fought WOL Morg, he kept his distance and lasted longer than Terrax, and it took an angry swing of Morg's axe across Firelord's chest to put him down. Also, when Morg lost the PC later on that issue, Firelord put him on the ground in one blast.
-When Firelord fought the Annihilation Wave, Firelord easily beat the handful of seekers that came after him, then went and saved Red Shift and Surfer, and then, along with Stardust and Red Shift, was holding off the Wave for 6 months. He also took down a flagship, and Ravenous. And afterwards, he even took down the Centurions single-handedly.
-When Firelord fought the Hulk, he killed the Hulk in two blasts.
-Firelord destroyed a planet-sized meteor easily many years back, and then not too long ago destroyed a planet easily as well. Also, he took down 5 worlds full of Centurions.


And Human Torch wannabe? eek! Yea, you really proved how much of an idiot you are right there by saying that. Now i'm done with you. Youve been owned. When you try to use your brain and dont just mouth off bullshit come back to me. Till then, i wont debate with you.

I know im being harsh but i dont like ignorant people.


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firelord was a nonfactor in the heralds ordeal as u could be. terrax was involved in the same story and was shown in much better light. therefore these two characters while in same story terrax was shown to be the better of the two. plus are u allowing terrax to fly or are u talking about his depowered version that needs his axe to fly.


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Dont just ignore my entire post or i wont debate with you because obviously you're an idiot who doesnt know jack shit about Firelord and is just mouthing off shit. Im done debating with you you're just too damn stupid. But before i go, ill try one more time and maybe it'll sink in....

Firelord is in the top 3 of the heralds. He's above Terrax, Air-Walker, Nova, Fallen One, Red Shift, and Stardust. He's only below Morg and Surfer. Terrax isnt even fourth. Or fifth. This is the order of heralds from most to least powerful:

Morg/Surfer
Firelord
Red Shift/Stardust
Terrax
Air-Walker
Nova

Here's my proof right here (again) that Terrax doesnt have jack shit on Firelord:



And Human Torch wannabe? eek! Yea, you really proved how much of an idiot you are right there by saying that. Now i'm done with you. Youve been owned. When you try to use your brain and dont just mouth off bullshit come back to me. Till then, i wont debate with you.

I know im being harsh but i dont like ignorant people.
read the post. tell me where it says debate firelord vs terrax nonstop. hal would own firelord. end of story

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Feel free to bring up the scan...since SS didn't drain anything from OA...if anything...Hal absorbed Surfers energy with a touch.
I haven't read the issue in a while, i was mistaken, i originally thought tha Surfer absorbed the Oa energy directly from the central battery, but it stead he took the energy from Kyle him self. anyways here the scan.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...5/GLSSUA-01.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l.../GLSSUA-002.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l.../GLSSUA-003.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l.../GLSSUA-004.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l.../GLSSUA-005.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l.../GLSSUA-006.jpg

anyways the statements i made before the gl's energy can be manipulated by heralds (not specifically Firelord) was in reference to the conversation that i had with Nver.

i KNOW that Hal Jordan would win this fight but i feel that it would more of a match up than a curbstomp that a lot of people are thinking.

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Heralds pwn GL.

Anyway, Firelord just to pass the defense of Hal. After that, Hal is agains t a being who crush him for breakfest.


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GLs pwn all heralds except SS. and i think with Alan, Hal, and Kyle thats a stalemate.


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Heralds pwn GL.

Anyway, Firelord just to pass the defense of Hal. After that, Hal is agains t a being who crush him for breakfest.


Oh shit!!

Maybe Hal should create a sentient Spider-man construct to fight for him instead?


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lol

And a Black Panther against SS?

PIS isn't the good answer.


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lol

And a Black Panther against SS?


Now you're getting it.


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Oh shit!!

Maybe Hal should create a sentient Spider-man construct to fight for him instead?


Ouch! no


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