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Originally posted by Dexter_Morgan
It's an extreme analogy not a bad one. It carries the sentiment that theft is theft is theft.






Not really..... You'd just download more, we've already established you're a theif.

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Originally posted by Soljer
I'm as much a thief as I am a drug runner, murderer, and rapist.

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Originally posted by Soljer
And who said I was a US resident?

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Originally posted by Dexter_Morgan
U.K. law is almost exactly the same. F.A.C.T

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Originally posted by Switch 07
I download comics what am I?

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Originally posted by darthgoober
Stealing "intellectual property" and ACTUAL property are two entirely different things in my book. If I steal food from the supermarket, the supermarket actually has to replace the stolen food and therefor actually LOSES money. If I download a comic, the company doesn't lose anything because because all I've done is copy data over the Internet that was already available.

Before I started downloading if I wanted to know what was going on in the realm of comics the only option available to me was sitting in a store somewhere and reading issues without buying them. Now as careful as I was when I was doing that very thing, sometimes shit just happens and as a result there were several instances of my accidentally damaging the issue I was reading at the time(via sneezing, drink spilling, turning the page too quickly from excitement and bending/tearing them, ect.). So I cost the company more money when I WASN'T downloading because then the store was left with a book that no one wanted and ended up getting thrown away/recycled rather than bought.

Don't get me wrong, if you CAN afford to buy(and have access to) comics then I think that you should, but if not then so be it.

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Originally posted by Dexter_Morgan
If you download comics you are committing copyright theft.

U.S. law coming up, most international law supports this also.

Intellectual Property is no different than physical property. Stealing intellectual property that is copyrighted is against the law and can have serious consequences. Movies, music, games, comics and software are forms of intellectually property that are usually copyrighted to protect the people who make them.

You admit to downloading so you admit you're a thief. It's a shame you admit to these other worse crimes also.

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Originally posted by Dexter_Morgan
U.K. law is almost exactly the same. F.A.C.T

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Originally posted by darthgoober
Just to make sure it's seen...



Yes and if I wasn't reasonably sure that the politicians and police officers who enforce those laws(as well as the corporation members who ask for them) had things like mixed audio tapes and home recorded VHS tapes laying around their house somewhere I'd probably take those laws a little more seriously, but as things stand it seems a little hypocritical for the people in positions of authority to give guys like me a hard time.

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Originally posted by Soljer
And is it a F.A.C.T. that I'm a UK resident?

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Originally posted by SpookySmurph
You condemn those who own the issue, but download it anyways, for the various benefits. Despite if people live in countries where DL'ing doesn't break laws, their apparently thieves in your eyes anyways. And you expect everyone who lacks the money, but buys when they can, what they can, to stop DL'ing anyways, because it makes them thieves.

No, I'm not attempting to justify any of the above situations, but it seems you're more worried about the title of "thief", than actual damage to the industry.

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Originally posted by Soljer
And is it a F.A.C.T. that I'm a UK resident?

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Originally posted by SpookySmurph
You condemn those who own the issue, but download it anyways, for the various benefits. Despite if people live in countries where DL'ing doesn't break laws, their apparently thieves in your eyes anyways. And you expect everyone who lacks the money, but buys when they can, what they can, to stop DL'ing anyways, because it makes them thieves.

No, I'm not attempting to justify any of the above situations, but it seems you're more worried about the title of "thief", than actual damage to the industry.

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Originally posted by Dexter_Morgan
In those coutries where downloading is still legal it still counts as copyright theft. It's a moral issue.

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Originally posted by Dexter_Morgan
Your justifiucations sound like those throughout history of the immoral.

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Originally posted by SpookySmurph
I'm not attempting to justify any of the above situations

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Originally posted by llagrok
He's more preoccupied with labeling and indirectly offending people than actually debating and the so called "damage" it does to the comic industry.

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Originally posted by Dexter_Morgan

Who knows where you're from.

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Originally posted by SpookySmurph
You view it as unethical to download an issue that you already own?

Reading comprehension ftw!1!

Also, I see you've labeled me as a DL'r without prompt?

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Originally posted by llagrok
There is no such thing as an International Copyright that will automatically protect an author's writings throughout the entire world. Protection against unauthorized use in a particular country depends, basically, on the national laws of that country.