Proof? Or is this just another one of masterbruce's suppositions? Cyclop's blasts are constantly firing, despite being blocked by his ruby quartz glasses.
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Last edited by batdude123 on Jul 3rd, 2008 at 10:46 PM
I guess I should have made more clear the settings, as it's pretty important in this battle.
My intent was that the battle take place in a snow-filled forest, that has trees and other plants, although it isn't dense like a rain forest, there is plenty of cover.
Scott necesarily had to hit Wolverine with all he had since that's what he was commanded to do.
Well I mean, if the argument is that Cyclop's has gotten stronger over the years, has this been referenced upon outside of the collateral damage he does more of now as opposed to then. I remember his classic beams still being pretty damned powerful.
So this is more of an imprical statement then something that's been referenced?
After that fight, Sabretooth runs for it, the X-Men catch back up to him Jean Grey breaks one of Sabe's legs with TK then Cyclops blasts him through a window, Sabretooth jumps back through the window and pin Cyclops down who's then saved by the X-Men.
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how does wolverine know scott's limits if even scott doesnt?
i don't see how, to be honest...
of course, 'full power' was just something cool writers used to go on about... he's a damn sight more powerful now than he was in years gone by, even in astonishing alone, he has some really impressive feats...
But mentioning this would require me to assert proof that these non-Einsteinian particles act other than any other particles we've encountered before. They ricochet like regular particles. they interact with our plane's matter with a concussive force. It seems like they act like light with the particle wave duality. And as the burden of proof requires us to assume what's established as the norm until proven otherwise. To make a claim that they would not act like our particles would require evidence.
Even if you do not wish to pick up continuing this defense, whoever does, does so with the challenge for proof attached.
They come out of his eyes all the time. He can't turn em off. In order to see without destroying everything he has to wear ruby quartz lenses to filter out the beams.
What? Do you think the glasses were just a fashion decision?
when he fires a beam, his field of vision is covered by red light, hence he is technically 'blind' while firing and shouldnt see his target once he fires
i think this falls under the 'writer not knowing just how powerful cyclops is' heading...
they were, but there was always the tendency by writers to assume he used high level blasts, when his very nature contradicts that... its the beams themselves that are more powerful...
its a deduction based on how powerful his so called 'full power' blasts used to be, and how strong they are nowadays, without him yelling 'full power!' like some member of the superfriends...
same issue? i'll have to find it so...
he's ALWAYS firing his blasts. its why he wears the glasses in the first place.
And perhaps the weak point stays consistent from then on. I'm not about to listen to some argument that has no basis in the real world as it is. It was stated there was a weak point and then proven.
Again what was stated. I really don't care that you don't like it.
Cyclops even makes a reference to the fact that Death had studied them inside out. Given Wolverine's historical reference to a weak spot. and several instances where it was proven or supported, this is really not even close to being like Secret Wars Spidey who had multiples of instances which contradicted that one feat. It's not like Cyclops' powers were ignored. A reason was given for it to happen. And it's been a feat replicated on more than one occasion. Like Secret Wars? Hardly.
And you're saying that it's not feasable for Cyclops to have a weak point in spite of evidence to the contrary. So calling is bullshit and discarding it VERY MUCH DOES have to do with how it appeals to you.
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I'm just giving you one possible explanation/theory as to why he may have a "weak spot" in his blast.
Writers make it a point of contention for us to know that his blast is made from "non-Einsteinian" particles in his bios. That basically means the physics behind it is up in the air. It could be argued that it's a plot device in and of itself, in order for the writers to explain the "faulty science" behind it.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
You obviously haven't been reading the recent comics.
He's only blind on the technicallity that his eyes are closed when he doesn't have his visor on. his visor doesn't mean that the beams aren't coming out of his eyes.
And no, he'd just destroy what was in front of him. He keeps his eyes closed when his visor isn't on.