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Combat Speed/Reflex Contest of Top-tiers
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Originally posted by The Great Galen
SS doesn't have combat superspeed, Goober even conceded this point a long time ago so I don't know why he is arguing now.....

No I didn't and if you lie about things I've said again to gain an advantage in a debate I'll report you. I said that Surfer has that kind of speed available, but he doesn't fight like that.


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Originally posted by The Great Galen
Because he doesn't have combat speed on his board, u can't equate his travel speed as combat speed.

We're not equating travel speed, we're talking about showing of speed/reflex in combat.


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He doesn't though, he doesn't have movement speed like that...oh he has is linear travel on his boad. He moves like a normal human and always has so plz stop it. Anyhow back to this thread:

Superman
Wonder Woman
Darkseid
Silver Surfer
Thanos
Thor

Taking into account combat related speed and reflex.


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SS doesn't have combat superspeed, Goober even conceded this point a long time ago so I don't know why he is arguing now.....
actually, goob has been hitting you repeatedly with E-gloves for a battlezone duel for months now, you're the one dodging him.

and the "speed advantage" is one of many points he will definitely bring up if you work up the nerve to face him, there was no concession.


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actually, goob has been hitting you repeatedly with E-gloves for a battlezone duel for months now, you're the one dodging him.

and the "speed advantage" is one of many points he will definitely bring up if you work up the nerve to face him, there was no concession.


I already addressed the battlezone chanllenge months ago, I said if I can open sometime for myself I will consider it. For the most part these boards are to my own discretion, it's time filler and of course for my own amusment as well. What I've been trying to convince Goober of is that SS doesn't have superspeed movement, which he doesn't all he has is board that can travel really fast.


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Originally posted by The Great Galen
He doesn't though, he doesn't have movement speed like that...oh he has is linear travel on his boad. He moves like a normal human and always has so plz stop it. Anyhow back to this thread:

Superman
Wonder Woman
Darkseid
Silver Surfer
Thanos
Thor

Taking into account combat related speed and reflex.

Are you going to provide proof or do we need to get the Mods involved? The forum's on thin ice right now so I'd really rather not do that, but I will if you leave me no other option. You've repeatedly made unfounded claims and outright ignored points and evidence provided by others just to aggravate those who disagree with you, and that's just the kind of thing we DON'T need when the vs Forum is under a microscope because the random observer may very well attribute that attitude to others.

Put up a real argument or concede the point.


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Are you going to provide proof or do we need to get the Mods involved? The forum's on thin ice right now so I'd really rather not do that, but I will if you leave me no other option. You've repeatedly made unfounded claims and outright ignored points and evidence provided by others just to aggravate those who disagree with you, and that's just the kind of thing we DON'T need when the vs Forum is under a microscope because the random observer may very well attribute that attitude to others.

Put up a real arguement or concede the point.
When did you return?


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Yesterday. My comp crashed right before Christmas and it took a while to get it back up and running.


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Yesterday. My comp crashed right before Christmas and it took a while to get it back up and running.
wow, how did you survive for so long without internet...


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wow, how did you survive for so long without internet...

I smoked more laughing .


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Are you going to provide proof or do we need to get the Mods involved? The forum's on thin ice right now so I'd really rather not do that, but I will if you leave me no other option. You've repeatedly made unfounded claims and outright ignored points and evidence provided by others just to aggravate those who disagree with you, and that's just the kind of thing we DON'T need when the vs Forum is under a microscope because the random observer may very well attribute that attitude to others.

Put up a real arguement or concede the point.


This board is doing pretty good for starters...it's hardly on thin ice. I've already defended and proved my stance, I claimed supes has the superior combat related speed and reflext...which he does. I claimed supes has the fastes movement speed of anyone here...which he does again. The only thing you've done is protract arguments about SS "supposed"superspeed which I simply disagree with...obviously we don't define combat speed in the same terms. If you want to beleive SS has combat speed comparable to supes or even WW then fine....but let's not get the mods involved because I feel this has been civil up to this point, no one is bashing or trolling so let's just leave it as it is.


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This board is doing pretty good for starters...it's hardly on thin ice. I've already defended and proved my stance, I claimed supes has the superior combat related speed and reflext...which he does. I claimed supes has the fastes movement speed of anyone here...which he does again. The only thing you've done is protract arguments about SS "supposed"superspeed which I simply disagree with...obviously we don't define combat speed in the same terms. If you want to beleive SS has combat speed comparable to supes or even WW then fine....but let's not get the mods involved because I feel this has been civil up to this point, no one is bashing or trolling so let's just leave it as it is.

Did you happen to see the "Attention" thread...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t501191.html

...we ARE on thin ice, and at risk of being shut down completely.

You've made repeated claims saying things about Surfer has NO combat speed despite multiple scans proving the contrary and refused to discuss them further when your points are countered. You've repeatedly insinuated and made claims about Surfer's reflexes being dulled while off his board, again without proof. I'm not debating who's reflexes are better between Supes and Surfer, I'm addressing this claim...

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Except he hasn't applied it into a battle and since when does fast reflex trasnlate to fast movement. He has good pilot reflexes which no one will deny, but as it's been explained before MA is a very different kind of animal then navigation. Besides even if he could apply reflex into battle he would still need to apply speed in order for it to be effective.


I've brought up 4 well known instances of Surfer applying speed in battle so yeah, if you insist on being unreasonable we'll make an actual issue of it since...
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you know bloody well how.

if you have an opinion, then back it up. don't clog up threads by saying the same thing over and over. that's trolling.


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Did you happen to see the "Attention" thread...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t501191.html

...we ARE on thin ice, and at risk of being shut down completely.

You've made repeated claims saying things about Surfer has NO combat speed despite multiple scans proving the contrary and refused to discuss them further when your points are countered. You've repeatedly insinuated and made claims about Surfer's reflexes being dulled while off his board, again without proof. I'm not debating who's reflexes are better between Supes and Surfer, I'm addressing this claim...



I've brought up 4 well known instances of Surfer applying speed in battle so yeah, if you insist on being unreasonable continue as you are we'll make an actual issue of it since...


I can't believe these boards our on thin ice, out of all the comic related vs forums this one is actually the most reasonable/non bias one Iv'e come accross......I don't understand why we are getting shut down for no reason.

Well if these our the end of days let me just say this, the 4 examples you referred to do not constitute superspeed IMO...if you want to believe so then fine but personally I don't find them that impressive or indicators of sueprspeed.


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I can't believe these boards our on thin ice, out of all the comic related vs forums this one is actually the most reasonable/non bias one Iv'e come accross......I don't understand why we are getting shut down for no reason.

Well if these our the end of days let me just say this, the 4 examples you referred to do not constitute superspeed IMO...if you want to believe so then fine but personally I don't find them that impressive or indicators of sueprspeed.


That's what happens when people refuse to follow the rules.

He was moving/reacting at super speed, thus he has super speed.

Anyway, last chance to provide proof of or retract your previous claims before I send my PM(since the report button just draws unnecessary attention).


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