Every time I see you arguing you seem to want to dodge the gist of my argument. In no era has DS had problems beating Supes. In DOTNG DS wasn't amped when he was killing Supes.
As I said in every period in his history he has been shown to have the beatings of Supes, and in many of those instances he used his esoteric powers.
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You are using elseworlds as evidence which is against the rules. I have given more instances of Darkseid not beating Superman under his own power than you have.
I wasn't talking about that instance genius. Do you see DS trying to kill Supes there? It seems you never read all of DOTNG.
I was talking about DOTNG # 3, where DS uses the oblivion manifestations (shadow demons) to kill Supes before Miracle saves him with the ALE.
You're posting DOTNG # 8 which is after DS had the SFE and merely KO'd Supes, I was talking about the time he's killing Supes with the evolved shadow demons where Superman states and I quote:
"Once again I've underestimated Darkseid's power [....] and it looks like it will be a fatal error."
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The shadow demons are manifestations of oblivion they are not parademons (who are physically and mentally reconditioned soldiers). With the Omega Force Darkseid has control over this manifestations thanks to his power over oblivion.
Thats his power, Superman clearly states "Again he has underestimated DS' power" so take up your arguments with Supes, buddy.
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Enalyus already has this one covered. Thor is his greatest opponent then up to 2003 or whatever year the jla/avengers crossover came out and so on.
Ds only used these on his home planet in one issue. I have never seen Ds use this tactic outside his homeworld and himself personally. Supes and the gang met up with apokoliptian resistance that's all.
Superman met up again with him in countdown and Ds had to use jimmy olsen to gain an advantage. He can't use shadow demons in a fight here.
please post that in the darksied vs dc ares thread too you obliviously know quite a bit about ares , could you explain how granny goodness captured the entire greek pathon (sans whoever) and didn't granny goodness beat athena almost to death or something.
Riight! Except he's actually getting killed in this instance and he wasn't making any comparisons he was simply stating the facts of the scenario, he expected to screw with the molecular composition of the shadow demons but found that they had become perverted by DS' power, they evolved, and were slowly absorbing him into oblivion before the Miracle bailed him out with the ALE.
As I said, take the argument up with Supes, and by extension Starlin who wrote him.
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Iboga chose not to fight, to allow himself to evolve. He had the wisdom to abandon the actions of war when he knew they would no longer serve him.
Ds changed them and the were killing him. Ds doesn't have access to shadow demons in a forum fight and wasn't even in the same room as Superman at the time. Superman tried the same strategy that worked on them the first time he met them which didn't work this time thanks to Ds.
Manhunter is more powerful than Supes as well unless you think he is lying. Supes beats up Darkseid when these two are in the same room. That's just the way it is.
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Mar 24th, 2009 03:14 AM
J'onn was an insubstantial comment. Darkseid was actually killing him.
