- But with his strength he can move a rock that size. Relative perspective.
- The Uroboros may still be weak against fire, but weak does not mean instant obliteration. There's still flesh and bones to take in consideration. Again relative perspective.
- Granted.
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The strength to move the rock is not the point in question. I'm sure anyone of us could push a car in neutral, but lets say we heated that car up to the same heat of the rock, then would we still be able to push that car? The heat from the metal would be too hot and we'd instantly let go. IIRC didn't he have his face on the rock?
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Wait... if that is PIS and doesn't count. Isn't the Chief's falling out of the sky? He survived because he had to, or Bungee wouldn't make anymore money.
Never seen the fall so I couldn't comment on if it was PIS or not in my book. Depends on the height imo, the suit he wears should protect him from a certain amount of damage like that depending on the height of the drop.
the master chief's falling isnt pis because before the third game even came out the novels depicted spartans falling from the atmosphere and not being harmed. its one of the perks of the MJOLNIR Mark VI armor. the Armors Hydrostatic gel increases automatically when the user is falling to absorb the impact. thats why john in halo 3 and fred and linda and the others in halo first strike were able to survive falling kilometers without damage. its not pis because this ability was established years ago in the novels bungie wrote. the mark vi is also completely oblovious to gun fire and prevents the wearer from dying from injures unless theyre extremely severe.
so wesker has no way of beating the master chief. hes not even that much faster faster as the chief sees bullets in slow motion.
its not and thats further established by the fact that not only is he stated to have fallen two kilometers in the game but also he is seen falling through the sky (and on fire from leaving the atmosphere) in the last segment of the live action videos, which are prequels to the game.
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I know gameplay doesn't count, but if the Chiefs armor is impervious to bullets, why do you have to dodge them? The way your saying, MC could walk around the entire game and melee everyone/thing he meets.
Wesker can see in slow motion too, and the Chief never goes anywhere near as fast as him.
One more thing. If the Mark iv armor is so great, how did almost all of the SPARTAN II project Spartans die?
That's just it. The whole Spartan dying to a hail of bullets in game is all gameplay. Besides, plasma weaponry are not bullets, and it's a hell of a lot deadlier than they make it appear in game.
Chief doesn't have to be as fast as Wesker to see him coming, and there are varying degrees of bullet vision. Chief has some of the best around.
If I recall correctly, they were still on Reach when it got glassed. As tough as Mark IV is, it can't stand planet razing.
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The Spartan-II project was established to fight the covenant. Covenant Elites and Brutes were formidable advesaries in both durability and brute strength. Plasmaweapons was far more dangerous than human machineguns. And Chief dodge bullets because he can. Wesker too. We all know Wesker can take a bullet without taking actual injury, so why bother dodging it? My answer would be yes, he could walk through the entire game and melee his enemies.
Wesker is faster than Master Chief, yes, but nothing implicate him faster than a bullet. And since Master Chief not only react to bullets, but move out of their way, he has what it takes to fight Wesker. There's not a single one implication that Wesker is any faster than a bullet, so while Wesker is fast, faster, he's not fast enough.
The Spartan armor is very great, but so is the Covenant technology and their soldiers. Put Master Chief up against people like Chris, Sheva and Jill and you'll consider him as superior as you consider Wesker. Comparing the humans in RE5 to the Covenant of Halo is a no-can-do.
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"Dangerous to your starfleet, Commander; not to this battle station"
cause they were stuck on a planet that got glassed by molting hot plasma gunships. I would like to see anyone survive that.
plasma is highly under rated in the game, I would much rather take a bullet than a plasma shot
the Spartan II project was just established to counter rebels at first, it cut down from 300 to 150 candidates and only funding for 75 then came enhancements which would only leave about 33, i think it was, that survived the enhancements that would make them super human.
chief at age 13 fought a match 4 on 1 with ODST troopers, thinking only it was training he accidently killed them, thats just without the armour yet.
after their first mission against the covenant, chief lost one of his best friends and the strongest spartan who got hit by shot, it didn't kill him but it breached his space suit so he couldn't escape the covenant ship before it blew, after that Dr. Halsey had been working on the armour - MJOLNIR mark V, the armour abilities were so great when tested with just a normal ODST soldier he was told to simply move his arm, the armour increased the movement so much he broke his arm and began killing himself from having spasms from the pain which just only made him break more bones.
also during their obstacle course there was a part where chief stood up in cross fire from machine guns and the bullets just fell off his armour. thats before they even managed to develop shields and before they used A.I.'s in their armour which also further increased its abilities
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"Dangerous to your starfleet, Commander; not to this battle station"
Don't forget to mention that after Chief hooked up with Cortana for the first time, he was able to deflect a rocket. No mean feat, even for a super-soldier.
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If they didn't explain it thoroughly enough, most of them died because they're bodies couldn't take the genetic alterations. Like bonding their bones with metal, increasing their strength and mental capacities, etc..
Alright so i got through reading the halo books. Although master cheif can fall into the earth and stuff , from what i read he gets interal bleeding. his bones are indestructable but his organs arent so basically he was setup so that his own bones can crush his organs. so if wesker were to place some well planned out hits to cheifs vital points then cheif would fall.
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May 13th, 2009 12:25 AM
I actually expanded my argument. Feel free to take a look.
