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The Triforce is not omnipotent, if it were, there wouldn't be a Zelda game. Omnipotence in the sense it's bein used can't be lost. If it were able to do anything, as soon as Ganon got it, it would have fixed his imbalance.


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No, because he made a wish to rule the world and it gave him the Sacred Realm.


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But if it were Omnipotent, it would have known what he meant.


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It's power, sir, not sentience.


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The three Goddesses created a single planet with their combined power.

The Triforce is a portion of their power.

Testaments are from what I know universal reality warpers.

Based on all this, Testament wins.


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It's power, sir, not sentience.


In the sense you mean, it's everything. How can it be able to do anything but unable to know?


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Because knowing is not doing. It's a moot point anyway since the Triforce was also said to be omniscient. The Essence of the Triforce just decided to screw him over.


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Because knowing is not doing. It's a moot point anyway since the Triforce was also said to be omniscient. The Essence of the Triforce just decided to screw him over.


It is omnipotent, it can do ANYTHING. It can know Ganon's true intent. The problem wit omnipotence is that ANYTHING is possible. If I ask if the Triforce can do anything the answer should always be yes. Can it know the true intent of Ganon's desires, the answer should be yes. And it was never stated that the Triforce choses who it wants to work for. It says it grants the heart's deepest desires, not go off of what the person says.

The Triforce is unequaled in Zelda, I can believe that, but it can't do anything and everything perfectly all the time at the same time an infinite number of times.


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Well personally I believe omnipotence is not actually possible in its truest sense without omniscience, but that is a philosophical debate that has no place here.


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I just hate the word. People love to bring it up in an attempt to win an argument wit out much effort.


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It is omnipotent, it can do ANYTHING. It can know Ganon's true intent. The problem wit omnipotence is that ANYTHING is possible. If I ask if the Triforce can do anything the answer should always be yes. Can it know the true intent of Ganon's desires, the answer should be yes. And it was never stated that the Triforce choses who it wants to work for. It says it grants the heart's deepest desires, not go off of what the person says.

The Triforce is unequaled in Zelda, I can believe that, but it can't do anything and everything perfectly all the time at the same time an infinite number of times.


We're talking about an omnipotent power, not a character.


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We're talking about an omnipotent power, not a character.


I'm confused, are you now sayin' that the Triforce is just an object? That it was unable to talk to Link and that it is unable to listen to words. And that it is in no way linked to the 3 goddesses and there is no such thing as the Essence of The Triforce?


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Before Albedo was a Testament, he could regenerate his body parts and was virtually immortal.


2:55-4:35


1:25-3:13

Albedo gets beat by the Pope and reduced to particles. The Testaments arrive and take out the Pope and Proto Omega quickly. Ziggy tries to fight the Black Testament but only meets failure. The Testaments then summon U-DO which causes Albedo to appear and resonate with it. U-DO than dissolves the Omega System (which is bigger than the planet it once rested in). >Not shown< U-DO spreads and makes the part of galaxy fade away.


Starting at 1:33

The Black Testament




0:15-0:38 The Pink mech is powered by a Vessel of Anima, one of twelve relics that makes up chaos's true power (which causes universal destruction).

This isn't even everything these cloaked men can do.


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The three Goddesses created a single planet witth their combined power.

The Triforce is a portion of their power.


This false information.

Nayru is clearly seen creating the heavenly bodies, such as the sun. Sun > planet.

The Triforce is the essence of the Goddesses. Nothing is mentioned about it being a "fraction".


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This false information.

Nayru is clearly seen creating the heavenly bodies, such as the sun. Sun > planet.

The Triforce is the essence of the Goddesses. Nothing is mentioned about it being a "fraction".


Prove it was a giant burning ball of gas.


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Prove it was a giant burning ball of gas.


You're joking, right? Right?! confused


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Regardless Ganondorf loses to an opponent that can make the universe his toy.


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You're joking, right? Right?!


How can you turn off a giant ball of gas, as apparently Ganon does?


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How can you turn off a giant ball of gas, as apparently Ganon does?


What are you talking about?


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What are you talking about?
Ganondorf farting, I guess


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