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Red Harlow(Red Dead Revolver) vs Link(TP) and Kratos with a twist
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They'll have to start pretty close to the guy with their own bows and arrows drawn already and considering he has the immovability ability, I would put him at superhuman for this match
You're missing the point. They can draw and shoot faster, they can't physicly harm him, but if one of them can freeze him, they can, without moving him, kill him. Neither of them can though, so it's a moot point.


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Nope I got that point. I haven't played RD:Revolver but if he is capable of reacting like with the dead eye meter that is on Redemption, all he has to do is simply un-holster the gun and fire, cause the reaction speed in the dead eye is fast enough to compete here.

It is just a simple pull the barrel out and turn it towards the opponent and fire. Testing a normal human on quick draw it takes about .28 seconds to get a full draw and shot off, about .11 seconds to get the draw I was referring to, and using dead eye which seems to put their reaction at above the human norm I would guess it would half that.

Unless Link and Kratos both can draw and fire bows at .09 seconds or faster they lose.

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Human reaction time is 0.25, To actually draw that fast is one thing, but to point the gun vaguely in the direction of Link or Kratos before either one arrows him is questionable, to do it to both is well out of human ability.

Red's lookin' at grab, draw, aim, shoot, he can do it quickly, but not in less than 0.2 unless you can show evidence of that. erm


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http://www.spike.com/video/testing-jesse-james/3381464

Watch the slow motion at the end carefully, the amount of time I referred to was just him slipping the barrel out and pointed.

He doesn't really have to aim considering the weapon and it's ability, though now I think of it the saint of killer's revolvers are slightly larger probably add a few hundreths of seconds on the draw.

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I'm relatively sure he has to atleast point the gun in the right general direction. Also, video isn't loading right, himme a few minutes to keep trying.


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That is how I meant it... except better worded... just get the gun out and point in the direction... I have to get better at this wording out thing

I can try to find a youtube version but they usually get taken down quickly.

http://www.movieweb.com/tv/TEx2tGyB.../VIFmbGJKLTHOKF Well I found this one, it is longer, and loads a lot slower. Seems I was off on the time though, took him .18 secs to get the gun point

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I've come up with the answer actually. Does Kratos have anyway to freeze things? Reduce them to freezing temperatures quickly? Link, atleast TP Link, doesn't. Had this been OoT or WW Link, they could have won. Here's why!

Cold, is infact, the absence of movement and energy. It doesn't move him at all, and therefore, he's not immune to it. This is unless someone has a scan of him showing cold resistance.

So, yeah, unless GoW3 Kratos has ice arrows, they're ****ed.
Well Saint of Killers was able to freeze over all of Hell, he himself seemed kinda fine.


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Well Saint of Killers was able to freeze over all of Hell, he himself seemed kinda fine.
Elaborate, if this occurs in such a way that gives him stupid cold resistance as well, then what he has is not immovability, it is invincibility.


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Saint was still injure from his previous wounds and I doubt he has straight out Invinciblity.


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Well Saint of Killers was able to freeze over all of Hell, he himself seemed kinda fine.

Scans plz.


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Saint was still injure from his previous wounds and I doubt he has straight out Invinciblity.


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His immovability is established as immovability in all forms, apparently. He shouldn't even be able to be stabbed, since that would separate the flesh which forces it to move.


How can he be wounded if nothing can move his flesh?


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How can he be wounded if nothing can move his flesh?
Prior to meeting The Death angel he was wounded by the Devil when he was still human.


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Aha. Noted. Once he's immovable I guess his wound doesn't affect him any longer, right?


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Aha. Noted. Once he's immovable I guess his wound doesn't affect him any longer, right?
yeah.


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Elaborate, if this occurs in such a way that gives him stupid cold resistance as well, then what he has is not immovability, it is invincibility.
Been a long time, cannot remember, though it happened while he was still mortal, before he became the Saint. It was due to his soul or something, and the Saint is technically just a soul.

Also, actually lack scans of this instance, could try to find his respect thread if you want.


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Not important, he wins regardless, but I thought it made good sense that the opposite of moving someone would bypass immovability. If it was because he's a soul, Red being human would not be immune, right? Just a cool idea for future threads.


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I guess not, though I thought SoK's powahz came from him being a soul or something.

Hm, need to read Preacher and SoK soon.


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Saint of Killers is all kinds of crazy, and would make even the Man With No Name raise an eyebrow, but I'm hard-pressed to say this thread even counts. All you did was take a comic book character, pitted him against video game characters, and with the only change being that you changed his name to that of a VG character.

It's like putting Tom Nook against a full-powered Pyron who refuses to pay his mortgage and wear his delivery clothes. Only thing is that Tom Nook is given powers equivalent to that of The Beyonder before he was nerfed, and then threatens Pyron with foreclosure.

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SOK wins. That's basically what this is, the man has killed God and the Devil.


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