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Originally posted by Robtard
People are mixing his anger/rage (which is justifiable) and his racism.

He preached (as per early NOI doctrine) that white-people were inferior; blacks were the original and genetically superior race. This is retarded and shouldn't be excused.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Obviously no. You don't agree with what?

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Originally posted by Deadline
Then you're in no position to judge. I don't agree that whites are inferior.

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Originally posted by Deadline
O god I hoped this wouldn't happen.

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Originally posted by Robtard
People are mixing his anger/rage (which is justifiable) and his racism.

He preached (as per early NOI doctrine) that white-people were inferior; blacks were the original and genetically superior race. This is retarded and shouldn't be excused.

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Originally posted by Robtard
People are mixing his anger/rage (which is justifiable) and his racism.

He preached (as per early NOI doctrine) that white-people were inferior; blacks were the original and genetically superior race. This is retarded and shouldn't be excused.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Um, no. I can judge a ridiculous claim, just as you did by not agreeing with it too, genius.

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Originally posted by King Castle
what? trying to make light of the situation?

i think a lot of what Malcom X said was racist and out of anger. i dont blame him nor judge him due to the world he lived in. it was justifiable his opinion of race superiority is his and i dont care, its a person's opinion which is subjective. i learned to ignore and at times respect such opinions.

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Originally posted by inimalist
its not a really easy distinction to make. his philosophies from the NOI informed a lot of his more valid criticisms of white institutions.

I do agree it is a "baby-in-the-bathwater" situation

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Originally posted by Bardock42
There are reasons why someone would follow such ideas though. That's the whole point.

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Originally posted by Deadline
Thats not the point.

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Originally posted by Robtard
I don't think you had a point.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Have you read the early NOI doctrines on white-people? Being created by an evil black scientist eons ago to punish the pure black-race etc.

It's absurd at it's best, hate the white-man all you like for going through Jim Crow and whatnot, but preaching and believing nonsense is just that.

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Originally posted by Deadline
Of course I did. If you want to lie about it, its ok.

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Originally posted by inimalist
my point is more that you can't look at his "anger" and his "racism" as two separate things, I'm not trying to say that his legitimate statements about oppression make his racism any more true

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Originally posted by Robtard
It's absurd at it's best, hate the white-man all you like for going through Jim Crow and whatnot, but preaching and believing nonsense is just that.

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Originally posted by Robtard
And my point was that his racism shouldn't be excused, despite his suffering due to oppression.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Have you read the early NOI doctrines on white-people? Being created by an evil black scientist eons ago to punish the pure black-race etc.

It's absurd at it's best, hate the white-man all you like for going through Jim Crow and whatnot, but preaching and believing nonsense is just that.

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Originally posted by inimalist
no, but it certainly shouldn't be simply dismissed as "racial untruth". Understanding the position of militant blacks depends on understanding their hatred, the same would be true for anyone looking into what drove the KKK

maybe we are arguing different points. I never said he wasn't racist, but more was arguing that his racism was a byproduct of a very racialized time, and in some sense appropriate to the position he took. Obviously it is something he should be criticized for, but there is more to it than "X is/isn't a racist"

like, obviously the better path is the one MLK took