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MadMel
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Dissidia is not canon.
It is in fact a direct sequel to FF1, but Square themselves said that it was non canon.

I DID read, but simply reading your words doesn't make them true.
Your explanation makes no sense, and it contradicts itself, so it's moot.


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Dissidia is not canon.
It is in fact a direct sequel to FF1, but Square themselves said that it was non canon.

I DID read, but simply reading your words doesn't make them true.
Your explanation makes no sense, and it contradicts itself, so it's moot.

What part didn't make sense, I said Cloud and Sephiroth from KH are non-canon back they dont have the same backstory as there counterparts and also Aerith is still alive.

Its got to be Canon since its a FF game and they all return to there worlds.

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the contradictory part was that you said that SCII has a story, wheras ssb is just a beatemup.
sc2 is 'just' a fighter.
and ssb also has a story, albeit a story akin to that of a silent movie.

That part that doesn't make sense is when you said sc2 link is canon just because he has a story. so?
Canon is based on what games the character's are in, not how the characters are presented in those games.

And no. If Square say Dissidia is not canon, it's not canon.
If it were canon, it would bring up quite a few plot holes and retcon a good portion of the original FF1.


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the contradictory part was that you said that SCII has a story, wheras ssb is just a beatemup.
sc2 is 'just' a fighter.
and ssb also has a story, albeit a story akin to that of a silent movie.

That part that doesn't make sense is when you said sc2 link is canon just because he has a story. so?
Canon is based on what games the character's are in, not how the characters are presented in those games.

And no. If Square say Dissidia is not canon, it's not canon.
If it were canon, it would bring up quite a few plot holes and retcon a good portion of the original FF1.

SSBB Story is not really a story at all because there was barely any dialogue, none of it made sense and there basically just trophies

Wouldn't Dissidia be classed as a canon because i thought the timeline on all of the final fantasy's was:

FFI - Dissidia FF
FFII - Dissidia FF
FFIII - Dissidia FF
FFIV - Dissidia FF - FFIV:TAY
FFV - Dissidia FF - FF:LotC
FFVI - Dissidia FF
BCFFVII - CCFFVII - FFVII - FFT - Dissidia FF - Novellas - FFACC
FFVIII - Dissidia FF
FFIX - Dissidia FF
FFX - Dissidia FF - FFX-2

It's like saying AC and FFV is non-canon because its a movie not a game. All well I still considered them as my personal canons except for SSB.

Star Wars Expanded Universe and how their canon works - they'll count anything as canon!

That said, acording to Wookipedia it is actually listed as non-canonical - but, there was a comic produces that tied into the game that was presented under the Infinities banner, which covers alternate universe takes on Star Wars (like Marvel comics old What If? series), so it's actually canonically non-canonical, if that makes sense.

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Just because it's silent doesn't mean it doesn't have a story.

I for one liked the change of pace from the usual talking.
And it made plenty of sense.

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And no. If Square say Dissidia is not canon, it's not canon.


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Just because it's silent doesn't mean it doesn't have a story.

I for one liked the change of pace from the usual talking.
And it made plenty of sense.

Just like DBGT is non-canon because Akira said so.

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DBGT more so because -
1. Akira had very little to do with its creation.
2. Dragon Ball Online (the story of which was written by Toriyama and IS canon) retcons everything from DBGT. stick out tongue


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DBGT more so because -
1. Akira had very little to do with its creation.
2. Dragon Ball Online (the story of which was written by Toriyama and IS canon) retcons everything from DBGT. stick out tongue

It says it non-canon on dragonball.wikia.com

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Another reason I call it a canon because its actually Link who travel's to Earth then he returns to Hyrule, that's another reason why it makes sense cause it instead of just mentioning there background story like on KH when you go on the database it tell's you of what film or game there from, it is actually for real. Same goes for Dissidia and the reason for FF1 because you have to create your character and has no default so it makes me think the warrior of light is default and the only hero because on the intro it shows him aswell on the psone version. Doesn't really say how many heroe's there meant to be even though you can create up to 4 and customize there class. I have no idea this makes sense or not, because I'm so tired.

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Canon is based on what games the character's are in, not how the characters are presented in those games.


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But with other games and media they count as other crossovers as canon's such as Star Wars (anything is Canon for them), Tekken (Heihachi was in SC2), Lloyd Irving from Tales of Symphonia(SC:L), Spawn, GOW (Kratos is in MK9 and SCIV:PSP), they also said its possible for Link to be Canon even though its Canon for the SC2. Actually I think SC is the only game that counts Guests as Canon's even if its a exclusive.

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But with other games and media they count as other crossovers as canon's such as Star Wars (anything is Canon for them)

There are very clearly outlined 'rules of canon' that apply to that series. George Lucas and the movies are considered more canon than books and video games, for example.

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Tekken (Heihachi was in SC2), Lloyd Irving from Tales of Symphonia(SC:L), Spawn, GOW (Kratos is in MK9 and SCIV:PSP)
Where does it say that they are canon?

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they also said its possible for Link to be Canon even though its Canon for the SC2. Actually I think SC is the only game that counts Guests as Canon's even if its a exclusive.

If that's true why didn't you say so in the first place?

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It says it non-canon on dragonball.wikia.com

Forgot to address this. That site is wrong. DB-O is very much canon, seeing as Toriyama himself wrote it's story.


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soulcalibur.wikia.com/wiki/Soulcalibur_Wiki
www.soulpedia.net
aselia.wikia.com/
tekken.wikia.com
www.tekkenpedia.net
Mortalkombat.wikia.com
Godofwar.wikia.com
That's all the pages I went to

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Oh look, more websites that can be edited by anyone! roll eyes (sarcastic)

For all I know you could have changed those websites yourself so that they display that information. It wouldn't surprise me. I've known people to make multiple accounts and edit wiki articles just to insult people.


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Oh look, more websites that can be edited by anyone! roll eyes (sarcastic)

For all I know you could have changed those websites yourself so that they display that information. It wouldn't surprise me. I've known people to make multiple accounts and edit wiki articles just to insult people.

I'm not even insulting you wtf, and no I don't change anything on them all I do is read them for research. I have better things to do then edit every single thing thats on there, theres awhole load of info why would I edit it, including the pictures and the theme

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Meh, it doesn't really matter. If Link is cannon in SC2, it isn't cannon for the game he originally came from. Miyamoto never sent OoT Link to another game... unless u count MM no expression


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