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so you think she wins and wins EASILY?
how would she bubble him when he has his shields up...? and just because the watcher doesn't find her (was he actively looking for her?) doesn't mean hal can't. an aoe is one possibility but the ring can find practically anything if hal wills it. i'd argue the ring's ceiling exceeds uatu's. i mean the ring has tracked DREAMS via psychic vibrations galan and i may have used that as part of a tourney we won wayyyyyy back lol her powers are said to be vibrational in nature, the source originating in hyperspace (supported by her ability to injure celestials). don't see why he simply couldn't set the ring to search for the shift in vibrations to find her. his scope of power simply exceeds her, as does his feats imo. don't see how she beats hal.
That's the thing; according to op, only Sue has her shields up.
Sure, you can make a case he eventually finds her. Assuming he thinks to search for vibrational shifts in the area.
But match starts, he tries to find her, whilst she....just has to bubble him. She's already cloaked, and shielded. He isn't. He's still in character. She's willing to kill.
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He could do that, then we'd have to argue if it goes through her shields, whilst she's also attacking him. That's the main problem with IW, her simultaneous offense and defense. But on top of that, OP has stacked it in IW's favour.
So we'd now have to argue if it's in Hal's character to just enter a battlefield and continuously set off AoE attacks while thinking to search for vibrational shifts then instructing the ring to do so then actually finding her then actually targeting her then actually getting to her.
Meanwhile, she has to...put a bubble in him. It's just...... difficult for me to see Hal getting to do all this stuff before he starts losing consciousness from a stroke.
Also just so people know: OP had clarified that none of Hal's pre-52 feats were allowed, for whatever reason. I think at this point JL#1 had just been released, lol (peep the light show!! Batman stealing his ring etc).
So we have:
An N52 Hal (yes yes I know Lanterns were the same blah blah but OP explicitly said no feats from pre52);
Sue willing to kill, with brain bubbles;
Sue entering this match with her shields up;
Sue entering this match cloaked; and
N52 Hal in character.
It's just such an uphill battle for Hal in this thread. That's without me bringing up Sue's feats.
Also, since you asked about the Watcher: (please log in to view the image)
And just recently, she snuck a whole load of heroes into Latveria on a 747 that she made out of her forcefields (so NOT a cloaked 747), past Sorceror Supreme Doom into Latveria, when Wanda says she can't:
So that's her maintaining a forcefield construct all the way on a flight from....NYC to Latveria, then all the heroes (Thor/Vision/Wanda etc etc) invisible.
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lol you're right. took his word for it. why that little....
back to my original opinion. hal wins. unless we're are VERY specifically limiting him to a couple of specific showings. which is.... but let's clarify.
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galan and i may have used that as part of a tourney we won wayyyyyy back lol her powers are said to be vibrational in nature, the source originating in hyperspace (supported by her ability to injure celestials). don't see why he simply couldn't set the ring to search for the shift in vibrations to find her. his scope of power simply exceeds her, as does his feats imo. don't see how she beats hal.
standard battle i'd take hal for sure but with these stips i agree.
