Lol I never thought I would see the day that people don't make batman out to be a herald or give the herp derp "batman can't lose" answer. However I do agree, as much as I love Bruce, that due to t"challa's stats and standard powerful arsenal he edges the dark knight out in the long run.
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the only thing laughable is your blatant and unfortunately, typical, anti-fanboyism. you hate that someone disagrees with you, or can make a convincing argument that you don't like. you can't win by posting scans, that is categorically clear, so you resort to "yur dumb! it's so obvious bp is better!!1!" it's too bad batman regularly bench presses 1000+lbs, and has performed feats comparable to what you showed....dozens? scores of times? LOL BUT.....every time he does something YOU don't like, it doesn't count. that makes things easy for you, eh? well done, sound argument. batman has so many feats that exceed the peak human level, that it's laughable that people like you are still surprised or throw out the very classic and classy--"i don't like it so it didn't happen" argument. always a firm stance to take. if anyone is laughing at the idea that this is a very close battle: they. are. ****ing. morons. it really is that simple. they hate batman, or overstate bp or simply don't know comics. or all the above. your stance is that all of bp's feats count, but batman's don't because YOU don't like them. and you think people are laughing at ME?? show bp taking out the ff i'll show bats taking out the f'n JLA! and i didn't use dd to reflect badly on bp, i used it to suggest bp and dd are ALSO close. had i wanted it to reflect badly on bp, i would have chosen some random thug tagging spidey.....
anyway, you were actually right about thing--bp is stronger than bats, but it wouldn't be a big enough difference to matter here. i really can't stand reading stupid posts but luckily for me, the forum has this great little tool that can make stupid posts invisible... you're welcome to your thoughts and opinions, as uneducated as they are. just don't blame people for using actual comics to take stances that are contrary to your own.
LOL, I see. Do you know what REAL fanboys do?? Real fanboys take is personal when someone else refuses abandon facts, logic, and general common sense for nonsensical orgasmic fanboy utterances. Fanboys also lie and are all too willing to cite fictitious statements in quotation marks. I can't help it if you feel dumb, but I did not call you dumb. But I did say BP is better at everything, which he is.
The fact is this: Batman has not super powers- deal with it. He is not even peak human like Captain America, who he admitted could/would beat him. Benching 1000 is not peak human, the strongest human without a bench shirt lifts under 750. So a showing like that is completely without explanation and not something to hang you hat on. But even so, this strength showing pales in comparison to multiple strength showings by BP throughout his entire career as a super human. Beside the examples I gave you which you can only attempted to discredit, BP once pulled down the top of a palm tree, loaded it with a small boulder while still holding down the tree to created a catapult. Even in you most euphoric fanboy moment, you couldn't conceive of Batman ever accomplishing such a feat.
The biggest fallacy of your embarrassing display of fandom run amok is that you are the only person in the thread actually attempting to make the argument that Batman is on par with Black Panther PHYSICALLY. This is a debate bound by facts, not opinions. You are the anomaly here. No matter how many strength showings you present (scans that you have yet to present, but the way) BPs strength showings CLEARLY put his to shame. Once you understand and accept that, all the other attributes are either a wash or in BP's favor. At what point is it fair to say you are in denial? Do the math if you dare. BP >>> Batman.
Finally, in your narrow minded rant, you stated that I either hate Batman or that I am a blankety blank idiot. This is what children and defeated men do. What I did was stated an opinion based solely on facts in the form of comic book showings, depictions and descriptions. I am sorry that you can't deal with the results without experiencing a meltdown, but that's what happens when one places far to much importance on a fictional character. You can't see the forest for the trees. If you want to attack my character, do so at your own peril. I am not upset with you at all. Whether either of responded to this thread in the first place doesn't change the fact that BP is a higher tier character than Batman. That's how he has has been depicted since day one of his appearance. I would suggest you actually do some research and educate yourself on Black Panther so that you don't make this mistake again.
I agree, except it wouldn't take that long run to prove such. BP is that good. He's called the deadly man alive for a reason.
Here is the thing. Taking nothing away from BM, BP has the slight edge on him WITHOUT the physical edge. BP has the same, unexplained, badass peak human showings unenhanced (off the herb) that Batman has. I know some fanatical Batman fans are probably hitting the alert button for me to be banned right now, but it's true. So what you are left with is this:
Intelligence - Black Panther
Strategy- wash
Strength- Batman (due to size edge)
Tech- Black Panther
Toughness- wash
Will- wash
Equipment- Black Panther
Hand to hand- wash
Resources- Black Panther
Speed/agility- Black Panther
Willingness to Kill- Black Panther
Stealth- wash
Now, you may agree or disagree with some of those areas, but add to Black Panther super strength, senses, speed, agility, mental prowess and durability. You tell me.
EXACTLY. I love Cap, but gun to my head, I'd give the edge to BP. His scope is broader due to tech prowess, intelligence and a greater understanding of universal events.
Batman is certainly a peer of BP in strength. BP has an edge in strength but its not to a great degree. Dismissing feats of Batman because "he is just a peak human" is laughable. Comics don't reflect that.
New? I started reading comics in the late 70's, Cele. And my status says "Senior Member" so I'm good.
Also, I never called it a "stomp." These guys are going to respect the intellect and skills of the other, so a fight is not going to end quickly....but it will be in favor of the Deadliest Man Alive.
I understand that, but BP's strength feats are superior as they are supposed to be by virtue of him having super powers and Batman not having super powers. And so is his speed, agility, reflexes and senses. Benching 1000 pounds is not the same as talking a rhino and breaking his neck. Those feats represent two different strength levels.
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Intelligence - Wash
Strategy- Bruce
Strength- T'Challa
Tech- T'Challa
Toughness- Wash
Will- Bruce
Equipment- Wash
Hand to hand- Bruce
Resources- T'Challa
Speed/agility- T'Challa
Willingness to Kill- T'Challa
Stealth- Wash
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yeah, he certainly does. i have him on ignore (unlike some on here, i don't entertain stupidity) so didn't bother to read his replies, but i'm about 100% certain he posted no feats or maybe a bp vs rhino which is...nothing bats hasn't done. i don't mind a mouth that can back something up, but spouting off like an idiot while flaming after i tried to be reasonably polite? lol yeah, my patience has a limit. the funny thing is this was never a debate. a debate entails posting proof, discussing, countering said proof to, ya know, prove a point. all he has is "batman is teh peaks humanzz, he's street bro and panther is teh greaterzz!!1!" while having the 'internets' as his apparent support. hilarious. the same internets that tells me man never landed on the moon....
i said a long while ago i get why people my might say panther wins. even i said he wins in gear more often than not. but i reiterate--anyone, on ANY forum, who thinks panther beats bats in any way at all 'easily', is a complete idiot who knows nothing about EITHER character. phil's challenge will go uncontested as my own has. why? because there is NO FEAT panther has that batman does not similarly have. based on feats, this thing is pretty dead even.
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i mostly agree with this. in a forum fight, willingness to kill is supposed to be sort of a wash though and resources don't really play into this, even though i agree with you. the rest i agree with you on, but i think each edge is pretty small. the biggest difference would lie in willpower, imo, where bruce is near the very apex of the food chain, and in a battle where things are so close, willpower counts for quite a lot imo.
Who the duck cares about the slight edge in strength going to BP? It's not going to make the difference here . Bane IMO, has a larger strength advantage than BP has over Batman.
bp will beat batman bp will kill batman he is a better fighter.. knowing more fightn styles is overrated.. batman could no survive a fight with sum of the ppl. bp has fought...
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and i didn't use dd to reflect badly on bp, i used it to suggest bp and dd are ALSO close. had i wanted it to reflect badly on bp, i would have chosen some random thug tagging spidey..... 
all he has is "batman is teh peaks humanzz, he's street bro and panther is teh greaterzz!!1!" while having the 'internets' as his apparent support. hilarious. the same internets that tells me man never landed on the moon.... 
