It's odd that Freshest is accusing me of deflecting the topic. I don't see anything in that last post pertaining to Vader vs Revan. Just on my case about Ventress, missing the whole point as to why she was brought up. All the while struggling, and lowballing her feats, then using Dooku as a measuring stick as a way to undermine, which is a failed attempt seeing as he hasn't even proven Revan's superiority over Ventress let alone Dooku. Again, feats only.
Where are you going with this, Freshest? Just curious.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
S66 remains the NY Jets of debates. It's amusing to watch him argue in favor of PT characters in all situations.
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__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
"Palpatine has spent decades studying the most arcane and esoteric Jedi disciplines. It is believed that he has mastered nearly all the known powers, previously unknown powers, and devises new ones at his pleasure"
-- Star Wars: The Dark Empire Sourcebook
That being said, Gideon kindly presented all the powers that apply to this (everything listed in the Dark Empire Sourcebook). Majority were basic powers, the others Revan had. Only a few he didn't - like Wormholes, Dopplegänger, etc. Plus, like psmith said, this is a generic quote that has been said for the likes of Naga Sadow, Freedon Nadd, and Thon as well. Not really as special as you make it out to be, TBH.
__________________ "There is only Revan. Only he can shape this galaxy as it is meant to be shaped."
Well, that means that he shouldn't be underestimated, but it's not enough to put him even close to Revan. And Vader likely wasn't allowed to have access to the same knowledge as those dark side acolytes simply because he would use it much better than them, and that would be dangerous for Palpatine.
That would explain why we don't see him use that many powers in combat, though that's probably also because Vader is a Sith Juggernaut.
He was implied however to known many more powers than the ones listed in the Shadows Of The Empire Sourcebook. It was also stated that Galen Marek learned to use "many fearsome dark side powers" from Vader, so that's at least proof that he is no slouch in this regard.
He has shown other powers though, IE: Beast Control, Mind Control, Drain Knowledge, Alter Environment, Barrier, Detoxify Poison, Force Absorb, Force Stun and so on.
So there is some truth that he learned from Palpatine.
Hyperbole are statements like Vitiate is godlike, and other statements used to hype him up.
Palpatine perhaps knowing every technique is supported, as he had an entire galaxy at his disposal to dig up. Fast learning rate. And decades to study.
The statement isn't exaggerated, just unquantifiable (hence the word "almost") and something that was said to be believed.
Of course I wouldn't expect you to know this. Don't throw out what you believe to be a big fancy word just to make yourself seem smart, unless you know its meaning.
Your wife must be lonely, BTW. Does she know about me? I bet she'd be jealous of all the obsessive attention you give me.
*waits for I know you are but what am I?*
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
I like ya Ant, and I mean this with all due respect, but you are absolutely no match for S66. Now if you could enlist Skillz to enter the fray on SWTOR's behalf, the outcome might very well be different...
Apr 27th, 2015 09:43 PM
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