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But I'm right. Kizaru wins by laser beam or cutting him to death. Goku can't stop a teleport with massive strength.


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But I'm right. Kizaru wins by laser beam or cutting him to death. Goku can't stop a teleport with massive strength.


What laser beam took Goku out? Also, would you give Krillin 10/10 against Superman based off this showing?

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Kizaru kills Goku by a laser beam or cutting to death. And it'll be easy since Goku can't detect him or touch him.


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Kizaru kills Goku by a laser beam or cutting to death. And it'll be easy since Goku can't detect him or touch him.


Do you have downs syndrome?

Trunks' sword can cut through someone that tanked a planet exploding on his face, like butter, yet couldn't cut through Goku's index finger. Kizaru's sword would break on base form Goku's chest.

And why do you think any laser beam will work on him, when he tanked Gero's island busting eye beams like they were nothing, in base form?


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the explosion of what planet? They never showed freeze surviving a planet being exploded. King cold was in doubt, you know why? Because they found him the middle of space away from where planet earth was. And trunks is using physical attacks not ki. So kizaru will kill goku with his laser beams or cut him in half( and easy). He can't stop a teleported and he can't sense kizaru either.


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the explosion of what planet? They never showed freeze surviving a planet being exploded. King cold was in doubt, you know why? Because they found him the middle of space away from where planet earth was. And trunks is using physical attacks not ki. So kizaru will kill goku with his laser beams or cut him in half( and easy). He can't stop a teleported and he can't sense kizaru either.


You've clearly never even read or watched the series. Frieza was on Namek, already at deaths door when it exploded. And he survived it, harmed less by the explosion than he was by his fight with Goku.

Every character in DBZ amplifies their physical attacks with ki. Try again. thumb up

Actually, don't. Everything you post makes me wanna dig out my eyeballs with a ball-point pen. Everyone here has utterly embarrassed your unbelievable ignorance, yet you continue acting like you've been at the top of this argument, like the shit-eating simpleton that you obviously are. thumb down


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Kizaru kills Goku by a laser beam or cutting to death. And it'll be easy since Goku can't detect him or touch him.


You didn't answer my question troll I mean, vampire.


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ssj blue vegeta died from a planetary explosion, meaning freeze didn't survive the explosoiin but escaped the blast. It goku in any transformation will die by kizaru physically( he'll go real fast), by laser beams( that mangrove was pretty big, it did cover about four blocks of houses), or he'll cut him to death. He can't fight a teleporter.


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You didn't answer my question troll I mean, vampire.

Kizaru kills goku, krillin is just a cop out because you think goku would lose. Stop running and debate. How fast do you think goku movement speed is? Not that fastcwhenbup against kizaru.


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Goku can't touch or match Kizaru's speed at all. Power difference isn't that vast if you believe Goku is more powerful and that's just with what Kizaru has shown so far. either way, Goku loses imo.


You remember in Dragonball when Roshi and Krillin had a fight and all this stuff happened in the blink of an eye and then they later explained everything they did, which included not only fighting but even also coming up with strategies during the fight etc. Basically all so fast nobody in the audience knew what happened hence why it needed to be explained.

Do you have a feat for Kizaru on that level? I'm talking reaction time and all that. Oh btw Saiyan Saga Goku is hilariously more powerful than Krillin or Roshi were at the time. But anyways continue you were about to present some speed feats.


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Batman can move faster than the eye can see to an average human being. How fast was he going on snake way? Not sound speed that's for sure. How about when goku fired off a kamehameha wave at raditz and raditz begin to run? Not sound speed. Remember when goku started running towards android 20 at full speed? Not sound speed. Remember when Dr hero was running towards his lab? Not sound speed. Kizaru is faster than goku since his on par with gear 2nd fluffy who escaped the speed of an explosion at ground zero on foot. Can goku duplicate that? No.


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Batman can move faster than the eye can see to an average human being. How fast was he going on snake way? Not sound speed that's for sure. How about when goku fired off a kamehameha wave at raditz and raditz begin to run? Not sound speed. Remember when goku started running towards android 20 at full speed? Not sound speed. Remember when Dr hero was running towards his lab? Not sound speed. Kizaru is faster than goku since his on par with gear 2nd fluffy who escaped the speed of an explosion at ground zero on foot. Can goku duplicate that? No.


Right, Raditz wasn't faster than sound.

https://youtu.be/EnQs5TsTT3o

He was faster than light. thumb up


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Right, Raditz wasn't faster than sound.

https://youtu.be/EnQs5TsTT3o

He was faster than light. thumb up

That's a bad dub and you know it. What happen to using the mania? It doesn't say it there. And we know his much slower, his still in close proximity of goku and piccolo. That's not even sound speed.


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Oh and kizaru takes this match quickly by teleporting then cutting goku in half or king him.


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Batman can move faster than the eye can see to an average human being. How fast was he going on snake way? Not sound speed that's for sure. How about when goku fired off a kamehameha wave at raditz and raditz begin to run? Not sound speed. Remember when goku started running towards android 20 at full speed? Not sound speed. Remember when Dr hero was running towards his lab? Not sound speed. Kizaru is faster than goku since his on par with gear 2nd fluffy who escaped the speed of an explosion at ground zero on foot. Can goku duplicate that? No.


Lol what..is this satire?


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What is satire? You're escape of real facts being thotwn at you that goku would lose. How can he touch kizaru? How can he keep up with kizaru? And how can he survive one hit from a guy that goes toe to toe with garp? This fight won't end well for goku.😄thats your satire oops I mean attire.


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What is satire? You're escape of real facts being thotwn at you that goku would lose. How can he touch kizaru? How can he keep up with kizaru? And how can he survive one hit from a guy that goes toe to toe with garp? This fight won't end well for goku.😄thats your satire oops I mean attire.


Dude I just tell you about a feat of two people fighting and performing all kinds of shit in the blink of an eye and your first line is something about Batman moving faster than the eye can see. How is that not silly? Batman at his best doesn't come anywhere close to the speed feat I mentioned. So I take it you haven't seen it and perhaps I didn't explain it very well? I dunno, I'm hoping you have no legit clue on the feat I'm talking about because if you did then bringing up Batman makes even less sense.

Also notice I never said who would win or lose, I just posted a speed feat for someone Goku is hilariously more powerful than. I asked for one on a similar level and you couldn't list any all you did was talk about Batman and snakes way and all this stuff.

I mean hell when Batman does the kind of stuff you are talking about he doesn't completely go invisible. He might be moving too quickly to really get a beat on him, but it's not like nobody knows what he is doing or that he is even moving.

I also agree with some of the things you say. For instance I don't believe Raditz is lightspeed. But you ask about the speed of sound..okay, so we can do some math:

So you mention Snakeway. We know Snakeway is 1 million kilometers which is roughly a little over half a million miles. So let us just use the figure of 600,000 miles. Goku, when he was leaving his training with King Kai, only had 48 hours to cover that distance. He more or less makes it in time. How in gods name did he do that without traveling at a travel speed well beyond sound? Speed of sound is what..like 700 mph? So hmm divide 600k by 700 and I get over 857. Did it take Goku 857 hours to return home? Which is around 35 days.

You say how can Goku keep up..is this a race or a fight? Please list me the reflex feats you feel compare to the feat I mentioned.


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Kizaru will speed biltzs goku slow ass. How fast can he react to a guy who fights a guy who escaped an explosion from ground zero by running? Goku and cell when they were fighting weren't close to being that fast, they was just faster than the other z fighters. How fast do you think Yohan was going when he tried to save trunks from cells ki blast( its not sound speed)?


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and goku wasn't running on snake way, he was gliding and jumping.


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