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Stoic
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Annihi-Hulk was in Thanos' weight class in terms of strength, and Thanos was manhandling Captain Marvel in the Marvel vs DC crossover, so if I recall correctly, some of those matches that weren't fan voted were considered canon. It can't officially be used on KMC, but there it was all the same.


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Is this current Aquaman? Seems a bit dickish to take away his trident. Unless it's pre52, who at least has really good TP feats.

I don't know if the team would win though, all things considered. Depends on a lot of factors.


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I thought 2 on 1 makes up for no trident


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As far as Thor is concerned which I noted as being Marvels closest answer to Captain Marvel. There are several things set these two apart when dealing with the Hulk. Banner knows who Thor is, and thus keeps his strength in check, because he has never been intent on killing Thor except for when he was in his mindless Bannerless state. As far as Thor vs Hulk is concerned, It was always a battle of who is stronger in both of their minds, as neither have ever poured it on to the point of a death match.

The art direction was also different those days than they are these days. In those days, huge displays of power were hitting a guy, and all of the windows in the surrounding buildings burst ( ref. Superman vs Doomsday DOS). These days, planets shake when a number of different Hulk's have poured it on. His set limits come down to situational settings in the comics, but this is neutral territory.


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I thought 2 on 1 makes up for no trident


Aquaman just isn't in that league. He doesn't have the kind of speed someone like Diana or Clark does, and he's not as mobile as someone like Flash.

It's not a terrible thread or anything; just saying Aquaman had limited options to begin with, and now he's getting less.


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You know who else doesn't have that kind of speed Hulk he is talking Superman lite charactet and Aquaman who is what Sasquatch level?


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You know who else doesn't have that kind of speed Hulk he is talking Superman lite charactet and Aquaman who is what Sasquatch level?



Perhaps in initial burst speeds, but Arthur has better agility by a decent margin.


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I think it all boils down to whether or not the Hulk would be willing to dig deep, or allow these guys to chip him up in a neutral setting by knock out. In my opinion, this is the Hulk's fight to lose, because Captain Marvel can not hope to match his raw strength, and the Hulk can punch him in the face like he did to Robert Reynolds. The Sentry at that time was always moving at 2 seconds into the future, he likely exceeds that these days, and he was punched in the face. Moving on.

It's the Hulk's durability that's amazing, his defenses actually allow for his toughness at certain levels, to take up to 70-80% of the hit, while his healing factor mitigates the 20-30% practically in that instant. Wait a sec, I'm not done yet, as his strength increases, his damage resistance climbs as well to the point that he may not even feel the impact, and magic isn't his weakness, he takes it as normal damage, and that damage is then mitigated by his innate abilities (healing factor) which had already increased by his level of strength thus mitigating the damage done in accordance to how suped up his healing factor is. The Hulk regenerated from being reduced to pieces of flesh and a skeleton. Neither of these guys are going to do that.

I have no doubt that his strength could far exceed Captain Marvels in a matter of seconds, because CM like it or not is in Gladiator's power tier, while the Hulk easily makes it into Annihli-Hulk's weight class at the moment of conflict (as seen on panel), while retaining the rights by trademark to exceed even that level of strength. How well do you think that CM would do against Annihili-Hulk, cosmic rod and all? He beat Gladiator like a slave. He wasn't able to drop the Hulk though, even while being slower than Gladiator.

Sorry man but the Hulk would stomp.



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Billy getting the short stick here. Shame


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As far as Thor is concerned which I noted as being Marvels closest answer to Captain Marvel. There are several things set these two apart when dealing with the Hulk. Banner knows who Thor is, and thus keeps his strength in check, because he has never been intent on killing Thor except for when he was in his mindless Bannerless state. As far as Thor vs Hulk is concerned, It was always a battle of who is stronger in both of their minds, as neither have ever poured it on to the point of a death match.

The art direction was also different those days than they are these days. In those days, huge displays of power were hitting a guy, and all of the windows in the surrounding buildings burst ( ref. Superman vs Doomsday DOS). These days, planets shake when a number of different Hulk's have poured it on. His set limits come down to situational settings in the comics, but this is neutral territory.


True statement buddy. Hell, during Hulk and Thor fight in the artic, Thor was in a rage but Hulk was still trying to save the guy life. He warned Thor to run, Thor wouldn't listen and kept trying to pound at Hulk which lead to Hulk bfring Thor so that he wouldn't get hit by the nuke. He took the blast so that Thor wouldn't get hurt.


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Whoa, did those people get smushed by the falling shelves? Its seems unlikely that they didn't bite it but what happened to Banner mitigating Hulk's damage, thus keeping him in check?

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I thought 2 on 1 makes up for no trident


U still havent said which marvel and which am


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I didn't realized you asked Pre-52 versions.


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I didn't realized you asked Pre-52 versions.


Oh ok thumb up team stomps then. Good thread. I think it wouldve been more competitive with Nu Billy since he's not as high up...id place him in the low to mid herald class with nu Arthur providing some good assistance. Theyd get wrecked but i think theyd make hulk work for it.

Old billy though is a definite high herald. Je could stalemate or beat hulk on his own. Arthur just tips the scales


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True statement buddy. Hell, during Hulk and Thor fight in the artic, Thor was in a rage but Hulk was still trying to save the guy life. He warned Thor to run, Thor wouldn't listen and kept trying to pound at Hulk which lead to Hulk bfring Thor so that he wouldn't get hit by the nuke. He took the blast so that Thor wouldn't get hurt.

Lol..


Temporary and questionable power up from Leader of all people.


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Lol..


Temporary and questionable power up from Leader of all people.


We've been through this and Hulk had a piece of Sharpnel in his brain that was messing with his power and memories.


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Oh ok thumb up team stomps then. Good thread. I think it wouldve been more competitive with Nu Billy since he's not as high up...id place him in the low to mid herald class with nu Arthur providing some good assistance. Theyd get wrecked but i think theyd make hulk work for it.

Old billy though is a definite high herald. Je could stalemate or beat hulk on his own. Arthur just tips the scales


Billy is good but he doesn't have the fts to say he would beat Hulk. Hulk at this point is the hardest puncher is comics and it has been consistent. Right now, during the new Era, it has been consistently mentioned that Hulk IS the most powerful being on the planet and he is.


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