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Millennials lead shift away from organized religion as pandemic tests Americans' faith


A Pew Research Center survey found 29% of U.S. adults said they had no religious affiliation, an increase of 6 percentage points from 2016.

Millennials are leading the shift away from organized religion, according to the survey.

More faith leaders are stepping up their outreach efforts — from social media to revamped sermons — to attract these younger adults.


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We all know how those "revamped sermons" end up.


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Omg.. laughing out loud

Lmfao

I actually gasped laughing out loud

That wins the internet for today.


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Take particular notice of the chart shown in the article (I've embedded it here also) and how steep the incline has been over the last 25 years or so. And the same with the Mainline religious on the decline. Now, of course that doesn't mean the "Nones" identify as atheist. The article mentions that it was only 22% or so of the Nones that are actual atheists, but it's still encouraging. I see this as an increase in the desire for secular rationality.

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No worries on that front. Christianity is rising in the US, as is Islam.


And on the world stage:


https://www.universitymagazine.ca/t...n-in-the-world/


"Nones" has no chance of overtaking religion.


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They already have in the U.S. which is the subject of this thread.

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No worries on that front. Christianity is rising in the US, as is Islam.



Did you get that from the graph you posted? Because I don't see where it shows that.


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They already have in the U.S. which is the subject of this thread.

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No, Catholicism and "evangelicals" are the subject.


The fact is, very many migrants bring religion with them. I have nearby houses of worship with heavily latino contingents to prove it (A reverand actually went to the DoJ on behalf of his worshippers)


And as the U.S. is a migrant country, the world stage affects the future of the U.S.. And on that count Islam will double.


Which means more Islamic immigrants in the future.


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Did you get that from the graph you posted? Because I don't see where it shows that.


https://www.universitymagazine.ca/t...n-in-the-world/


The US does not exist in a vaccume.

Religious belief is a world wide phenomenon. Your so called "rational thinkers" can not maintain a majority unless they intend to close off borders.


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The problem with American politics on both sides is tunnel vision.


Do you really think moderate religious representatives are teaming with atheists because they want an end to religion?


Doubtful. They simply want an end to white evangelicals dominance. If Catholics and Evangelicals ceases to exist, atheists and other denominations would have nothing to talk about.

Many even believe in right wing talking points, but other aspects turn them off to the right. But they are NOT left wing in spite of it.


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No, Catholicism and "evangelicals" are the subject.


The fact is, very many migrants bring religion with them. I have nearby houses of worship with heavily latino contingents to prove it (A reverand actually went to the DoJ on behalf of his worshippers)


And as the U.S. is a migrant country, the world stage affects the future of the U.S.. And on that count Islam will double.


Which means more Islamic immigrants in the future.


No, Nones are the subject of the thread, and they are already outpacing all religious denominations in the U.S., the other factors you mentioned included. Learn to ****ing read.


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Re: 'Nones' Now as Big as Evangelicals & Catholics in the US

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Do you really think moderate religious representatives are teaming with atheists because they want an end to religion?


Doubtful....

From the first post of the thread...

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Now, of course that doesn't mean the "Nones" identify as atheist. The article mentions that it was only 22% or so of the Nones that are actual atheists, but it's still encouraging. I see this as an increase in the desire for secular rationality.


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So yeah, good job reading there. Also...


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"Take particular notice of the chart shown in the article ... and how steep the incline has been over the last 25 years or so. And the same with the Mainline religious on the decline."


I realize it's a very large uphill battle for Nones to "overtake religion." Religion is so engrained in our ancestry that I don't think it will ever be fully eradicated. But the point is the steep shift that has been happening over the last 25 years or so and what should stem from that is desire for secular society, regardless of private religious belief. Nones are growing and they need representation. So tired of even deeply secular elected representatives paying lip service to religious platitudes out of some unnecessary cultural norm.


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"Nones are the subject of the thread, and they are already outpacing all religious denominations in the U.S" -AdamPoE


^God willing this trend continues smile


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Except it's not true.


The source is also known to be biased, according to fact check websites.


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Seems like it's becoming true.

In 2019 the Pew Research Center did a study and found that Christianity was going down while no religious affiliation was going up: In U.S., Decline of Christianity Continues at Rapid Pace. Note the words "decline", "rapid" and "pace".

That trend is only continuing and it's a great thing.


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None means moral relativity.
We're all going to exist in a post modern hellscape.

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Very deep and edgy, Ziggy

But no, less religion is a good thing.


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Very deep and edgy, Ziggy

But no, less religion is a good thing.


Do you think objective morality exists ?

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Not doing unto others what you wouldn't want done to yourself has been around before the first human looked up at the Sun and decided to worship it for it's warmth and light.

edit: BTW, most regions stem from the earliest Sun worship


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Not doing unto others what you wouldn't want done to yourself has been around before the first human looked up at the Sun and decided to worship it for it's warmth and light.

edit: BTW, most regions stem from the earliest Sun worship


So you believe objective morality exists in the form of the golden rule ?

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