They are all characters, and they are as impressive as the story dictates. So Superman Prime can beat up Myx if that's the story if you don't want that to have happened you retcon it. Moore never wanted Manhattan like this, but the present writer does.
No, because of the retcon...it isn't the greatest ever seen. Maybe if we had this thread in 2007or whatever, it would be, but if I read the scans from Abhi right, the retcon meant it was only universal level or whatever in scope.
It doesn't change the fact if someone is picking the original comics HoM (like me back then when I knew Wanda was omniversal and then stopped reading comics, so don't know anything about retcon), he will see Wanda tearing omniverse with extreme ease (one of the greatest power ever seen in MU) and then it got retconned.
Maybe we can't use it anymore, but I understand Mr Master here.
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It talks about global powers, million+ mutants, etc.
That's like picking up old GL comics, and arguing that Hal is still weak to yellow colours. Or picking up old Superman comics, and arguing he can't fly, only jump over buildings. Or picking up old Thor comics, and arguing that he has Mjolnir etc etc.
Isn't that how we do things though? I mean the recton obviously effects CANON Wanda's history, but if we're talk about the specific HOM version of the character it doesn't seem like any recton's should matter.
And I'm only bringing this up because a specific question about"HOM Wanda" is what prompted this line of discussion.
But the retcon is specifically for HoM.....so if they retconned that during DoS, for example, it turns out Superman had been juicing on Kryptonite beforehand, then we have to take it into account.
Now if OP or whoever limited it specifically to those five issues or whatever for DoS, then we ignore it.
Same way it turns out that DoS Doomsday had earlier survived a Guardian going kamikaze on him, or that he was Kryptonian in origin, or had faced the Radiant etc etc...
But the retcons deal specifically with that specific character arc...
Put it another way. If they suddenly came out with a retcon for Planet Hulk, where it's revealed the planet is radioactive, thus amping Hulk and weakening Surfer....we kinda have to take that into account.
Forum rules state we take the most recent version of said character. And the most recent version of HoM Wanda was only planetary.
I understand that... mainly what i am reffering with HoM Wanda is that original intention was she was omniversal and it actaully happened in comics... it can't be erased. Since it was retconed, it doesn't apply anymore... but original idea behind was that she was omniversal.
I have no problem actually using latest version.
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