But you haven't provided any evidence. Again we use feats to back up claims. Without specific comic showings then you have no case. You can keep spouting Superman loses all you want. But it holds no water unless you can prove your claims with actual comic showings. If you are going to keep claiming things without proof then that wouldn't be smart on this site. You know what I mean?
With that said, Superman is insanely stronger by feats. Superman is insanely faster by feats too.
Show proof that they can manipulate all matter in the universe.
Scans?
Show proof that they won't be a statue to someone with attosecond perceptions or are durable enough to withstand someone who is strong enough to break objects that can support many Star weights.
Gender: Male Location: United States BROOKLYN BABY
Everyone on here with knowledge of both characters that superman looses this fight. You must be the only one, that is not familiar with the phoenix. If you are than you know also that Superman chances are slim to winning. To keep going back and forth is pointless. Yes I understand you're a Superman fan, I understand you probably would like to be him if you could, and I also understand in your world Superman can never loose, but the reality whether you choose to accept it or not. He's out of his league. A being who can barely stack up to Doomsday. Is not beating the Phoenix.
Gender: Male Location: United States BROOKLYN BABY
Everyone on here with knowledge of both characters knows that superman looses this fight. You must be the only one, that is not familiar with the phoenix. If you are than you know also that Superman chances are slim to winning. To keep going back and forth is pointless. Yes I understand you're a Superman fan, I understand you probably would like to be him if you could, and I also understand in your world Superman can never loose, but the reality whether you choose to accept it or not. He's out of his league. A being who can barely stack up to Doomsday. Is not beating the Phoenix.
This is a debate forum. Either debate or get out. Stop trolling.
I'm going to start reporting you.
I already stated the huge speed and strength difference. Superman stomps hard.
It's long been established Superman stomp the entire PF, let alone a host. This should be closed for spite against Phoenix Force.
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Do I think Superman is an abstract and higher cosmic killing machine? The facts say he is, as surely as they say you're a troll.
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