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abhilegend
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Originally posted by carver9
Him even flying through Black Holes takes away from the ft. Also, he lost his memory during his flight their during his fight with Brainiac who also sent him through a portal. The ft isn't usable.

Of course it is, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is unusable.

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Originally posted by carver9
Him even flying through Black Holes takes away from the ft. Also, he lost his memory during his flight their during his fight with Brainiac who also sent him through a portal. The ft isn't usable.

Being cleansed by a black hole has no bearing on distance and time Superman traveled to get back. Superman stated how long it took him to get back. What does that have to do with remembering the fight?

I have no clue to what you are talking about.

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Aug 8th, 2023 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course it is, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is unusable.

I still stand by this...

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Originally posted by carver9
Here is where he was transported, lol...

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The next page, this happens...

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Lol... it isn't a flight ft.

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abhilegend
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I still stand by this...

He was outside time and space and then deposited at the end of the universe.

Its not that hard to understand, if you are not an idiot that is.

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abhilegend
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Originally posted by abhilegend
That was the end of the universe. Don't leave the actual part of the scene.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8ZO5i89CK...00-Ic42/002.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-H_qv7HEAg...00-Ic42/004.jpg

He was outside time and space and ejected to the edge of the universe from where he traveled for sixty days to the earth.
Alright, the writer (Greg Pak) is also shady then, huh?

Because that scene never even suggests where Superman was ejected (except for the fact that it was outside time and space) and Pak confirmed it again.

https://i.imgur.com/dNtDAWu.jpg

Carter is a lying piece of shit. Just like you so I'm not surprised you gobbled it up like you do everyday.

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Originally posted by carver9
Him even flying through Black Holes takes away from the ft. Also, he lost his memory during his flight their during his fight with Brainiac who also sent him through a portal. The ft isn't usable.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
He was outside time and space and then deposited at the end of the universe.

Its not that hard to understand, if you are not an idiot that is.

ABHI, they are the exact same scene. Here are the scans you all used...

https://ibb.co/X8t5Gy5
https://ibb.co/hdLZnh0

Now look at the scan I posted. Superman was transported right in front of earth. Only reason he THOUGHT he crossed a universe is due to Brainiac admitting he took his memories away.

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Here, Brainiac wipes his mind clean and sends him through the portal...

https://ibb.co/6byCpgk

Superman forgot everything and THOUGHT he flew an entire universe away, when he didn't.

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LMAO, never change. Carver

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol.

I realize people are getting confused by the pretty pictures.

One shows the whirlwind he was caught up in.

The other shows him punching through Saturn's ice and dust rings.

They're two completely different scenes.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Supes specifically says he's punching through the rings. No argument there.

We see the hole he's punched. No argument there either.

Now, if we believe the scenes to be exactly the same, that would mean in Carver's scans, the whirlwind from Brainiac, which looks exactly like Saturn's rings, deposited Superman at Saturn. And he then flew on, and the text about sixty days makes....zero sense.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait so how can he lose memories, but also remember 60days of flying?

Like you yourself emphasize...forget EVERYTHING. So he what, simultaneously forgets but also remembers?

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Originally posted by Philosoph�a
This oddly reminds me of yo momma jokes.

Superman forgot so hard, he remembered flying through the Universe.

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Originally posted by Astner
I'm not a high-end absolutist. I wouldn't argue that Gladiator is a trillion times faster than Superman (and that a fight between them would play out like a fight between the Flash and a bank robber) just because Gladiator has this one feat and Superman doesn't have anything that's directly comparable.

To me, consistency is more important, and we do occasionally see Gladiator struggle with characters that are not particularly fast more often than we get feats like these.

While I do consider them roughly equal I would probably put my money on Superman over Gladiator because Gladiator's power varies with his confidence whereas Superman's powers are permanent.

That said, if Gladiator frequently had feats like this and no real anti-feats then I'd think of him as a souped-up Superman.

if your counting everything. I think that 60 day to cross the universe should count because Superman stated it as much. The 60 days is precise and if that is accepted as true why not the other part of the statement? Why would superman not be able to tell the distance when he can tell the number of earth days that went by when he flew? Was he watching the sun rise and set on earth while he was flying? Of course not, It�s the writer telling us through Superman that he flew for 60 days from the other side of the universe. If you�re picking and choosing it�s only because of bias.

Also Superman flew across universe and a few times across many universes. The mxy sneeze feat he searched for a dead universe to sneeze in. How many universes did he fly through to find a dead one before it takes someone to give in to a need to sneeze? How fast was he going there?

Or the time he was flying after supergirl and crossed universes.

Or the example that abhi brought up? How much air is in the little girl�s tank? A day at most? And he promised to take her across the universe and get her home.

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The comics repeatedly state that Superman was at the end of the universe, writer confirmed it but Astner knows otherwise lol.

Aug 8th, 2023 09:02 PM

abhilegend
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Originally posted by carver9
ABHI, they are the exact same scene. Here are the scans you all used...

https://ibb.co/X8t5Gy5
https://ibb.co/hdLZnh0

Now look at the scan I posted. Superman was transported right in front of earth. Only reason he THOUGHT he crossed a universe is due to Brainiac admitting he took his memories away.

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Originally posted by carver9
Here, Brainiac wipes his mind clean and sends him through the portal...

https://ibb.co/6byCpgk

Superman forgot everything and THOUGHT he flew an entire universe away, when he didn't.

Did it also mindwipe Greg Pak into believing Superman was at the end of the universe and flying for sixty days?

Also when Superman was out of time and space, where did he spent those 60 days?

How are you so stupid?

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h1a8
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Flight speed is irrelevant to a fight.
Max acceleration in conjunction to perception speed and mobility is everything.

A character will not move faster than what they can respond to. A character that can achieve FTL speed in space will not be able to maneuver in tight spaces (liking maneuvering through a building at FTL speed if they don't have FTL perceptions and the ability to accelerate at FTL within a few feet of distance.

So perception speed and acceleration are the only deciding factors of battle speed. Travel speed in itself is not a factor.

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