Thats interesting, its kind of similar to my thought but a bit different. To me a Ghost, is the spirit that remains behind when the body dies, i didn't move onto heaven or life after death. An entity to me is a being that exists, but its hard for to explain how, like I don't really know how to explain it in words.
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Interesting question, but I don't know how to answer you. Please give me more information about your question. It maybe simple, but I see more than one way to interpret your question.
Okay, in my Buddhism for dummies book, it says Buddhists try to achieve a seperation from self to become blissful creatures. Now.. they may just mean to be unselfish, but there's so much around this "seperation of self" i'm thinking it's more like trying to become a plant and be a collective rather then a single entity who just happens to be really mellow..
Also the nirvanna aspect. So I'm assuming once you become a collective, it's feels really really good, like an orgasm.
We all knew weed could make you horny and happy..
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One big difference is the concept of the soul. I do not believe in a soul as an independent vehicle. To me the soul is a connection to the entity, body and mind. If one of these dies; the connection (soul) is no more.
My belief in heaven and hell is also different, I believe that heaven and hell are life states that we experience along with 8 other world, from moment to moment. There is no heaven that you go to after death, in my belief. We are the incantation of the entity. When we die, we die. The entity is eternal, and through this entity are reborn as a new person. The time between life and death is not linear.
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That is a different type of Buddhism. It is like trying to talk about a Catholic idea to a Mormon. We take the attachments of life and turn poison into medicine through Nam-myho-rege-kyo.
It makes sense for the karma wheel to exsist, the whole battle between Satan and God would be more obvious if the karma wheel was a reality, the definition of hungery ghost applies alot to the hauntings we encounter here on Earth, and some ghosts even seem to be victimized by a stronger entity who doesn't even concern itself with us or if it does it's a very rare and very dangerous circumstance.
But then ofcourse I say all these beings and more exsist and always have. They just reside on a differant energy frequincy. There's 18 some space dimensions and 4 time dimensions.. Ofcourse demons and angels and all that good stuff exsists.. We're just in no place to notice. Litteraly.
In my dream of talking to God, he gave me instructions on how to harness the powers of the quantamn field more easily. He also hinted of The Necromonicom, which once I started reading into it sounded alot like what He had told me. And I mean the REAL Necromonicom, not that fake paperback you can buy at a bookstore.. Though even the fake one might hold some power, because it meations powerful spirits, but the real one is infact more like a Book of Revelations from a differant perspective. And I know it resides somewhere in the Middle-East. If I had money, I'd tomb raider for that thing.. but then I'd have to do a radical spell to make myself a millionare, and who KNOWS the ramifications for that peice of work.. So I'll just wait for oppurtunity..
Ofcourse when I meationed all this at another forum everybody freaked. Even the meationing of the book of dead names itself broke a chill down people's spines. Jesus people, growup..
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Because I think you will not go read at this link, I will post it here. Please forgive me for being off topic, but I can’t get my thoughts about this topic communicated without others having this understanding.
One way that Buddhism explains life is through a concept known as "the ten worlds." These are ten states or conditions of life that we experience within ourselves and are then manifested throughout all aspects of our lives. Each of us possesses the potential for all ten, and we shift from one to another at any moment, according to our interaction with the environment. That is, at each moment, one of the ten worlds is being manifested and the other nine are dormant. From lowest to highest, they are:
Hell -- This is a state of suffering and despair, in which we perceive we have no freedom of action. It is characterized by the impulse to destroy ourselves and everything around us.
Hunger -- Hunger is the state of being controlled by insatiable desire for money, power, status, or whatever. While desires are inherent in any of the ten worlds, in this state we are at the mercy of our cravings and cannot control them.
Animality -- In this state, we are ruled by instinct. We exhibit neither reason nor moral sense nor the ability to make long-range judgments. In the world of Animality, we operate by the law of the jungle, so to speak. We will not hesitate to take advantage of those weaker than ourselves and fawn on those who are stronger.
Anger -- In this next state, awareness of ego emerges, but it is a selfish, greedy, distorted ego, determined to best others at all costs and seeing everything as a potential threat to itself. In this state we value only ourselves and tend to hold others in contempt. We are strongly attached to the idea of our own superiority and cannot bear to admit that anyone exceeds us in anything.
Humanity (also called Tranquillity) -- This is a flat, passive state of life, from which we can easily shift into the lower four worlds. While we may generally behave in a humane fashion in this state, we are highly vulnerable to strong external influences.
Heaven (or Rapture) -- This is a state of intense joy stemming, for example, from the fulfillment of some desire, a sense of physical well-being, or inner contentment. Though intense, the joy experienced in this state is short-lived and also vulnerable to external influences.
The six states from Hell to Heaven are called the six paths or six lower worlds. They have in common the fact that their emergence or disappearance is governed by external circumstances. Take the example of a man obsessed by the desire to find someone to love him (Hunger). When he at last does meet that person, he feels ecstatic and fulfilled (Heaven). By and by, potential rivals appear on the scene, and he is seized by jealousy (Anger). Eventually, his possessiveness drives his loved one away. Crushed by despair (Hell), he feels life is no longer worth living. In this way, many of us spend time shuttling back and forth among the six paths without ever realizing we are being controlled by our reactions to the environment. Any happiness or satisfaction to be gained in these states depends totally upon circumstances and is therefore transient and subject to change.
In these six lower worlds, we base our entire happiness, indeed our whole identity, on externals.
The next two states, Learning and Realization, come about when we recognize that everything experienced in the six paths is impermanent, and we begin to seek some lasting truth. These two states plus the next two, Bodhisattva and Buddhahood, are together called the four noble worlds. Unlike the six paths, which are passive reactions to the environment, these four higher states are achieved through deliberate effort.
Learning -- In this state, we seek the truth through the teachings or experience of others.
Realization -- This state is similar to Learning, except that we seek the truth not through others’ teachings but through our own direct perception of the world.
Learning and Realization are together called the "two vehicles." Having realized the impermanence of things, people in these states have won a measure of independence and are no longer prisoner to their own reactions as in the six paths. However, they often tend to be contemptuous of people in the six paths who have not yet reached this understanding. In addition, their search for truth is primarily self-oriented, so there is a great potential for egotism in these two states; and they may become satisfied with their progress without discovering the highest potential of human life in the ninth and tenth worlds.
Bodhisattva -- Bodhisattvas are those who aspire to achieve enlightenment and at the same time are equally determined to enable all other beings to do the same. Conscious of the bonds that link us to all others, in this state we realize that any happiness we alone enjoy is incomplete, and we devote ourselves to alleviating others’ suffering. Those in this state find their greatest satisfaction in altruistic behavior.
The states from Hell to Bodhisattva are collectively termed "the nine worlds." This expression is often used in contrast to the tenth world, the enlightened state of Buddhahood.
Buddhahood -- Buddhahood is a dynamic state that is difficult to describe. We can partially describe it as a state of perfect freedom, in which we are enlightened to the ultimate truth of life. It is characterized by infinite compassion and boundless wisdom. In this state, we can resolve harmoniously what appear from the standpoint of the nine worlds to be insoluble contradictions. A Buddhist sutra describes the attributes of the Buddha’s life as a true self, perfect freedom from karmic bonds throughout eternity, a life purified of illusion, and absolute happiness. Also, the state of Buddhahood is physically expressed in the Bodhisattva Way or actions of a Bodhisattva.
I think it's kindof silly how in the end, all religons hold the same distorted princable. Your suffering will end, happyness will be forever.
And that is the ultimate wrong. Your suffering never ends, it just comes and gos like the wind, so too does happyness. Both are just influental energies residing over one another changing the atmosphere of life and unlife, all things in this universe swurve around eachother creating a magnificent peice of art. But to think that you will ever be free from the hell that we ourselves have created by divine mind and intelligent clarification between right and wrong, well that's just plain lunacy..
It's been established that light is the fastest thing in the universe. All matter, all everything, originates from the light. But darkness is there too. It sorrounds us, it shakens us, it's presence is fealt to the ends of the universe. There is no escape.
No matter how fast light travels, only darkness awaits.
That is SpellJammer's philosophy.
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Just because a ghost manifests itself into a black form does not mean that it's evil.
I know from experience (which I will not speak of on these forums, cause' lets face it, no one will believe me)
Black shadows are not evil.
Just because a spirit may be bad does not mean that it's evil.
If you came across a shop-lifter, they would be bad, but not evil. Same rules apply to ghosts.
If you come across an evil spirit it is usually an energy created from negative energy, not a spirit of the deceased. But yeah, sometimes spirits of the deceased may be evil.
All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
I don't think demons are what most of you think they are. They are not related to The Devil, I don't believe in The Devil. Demons are created by negative energy. They are not the spirits of the deceased, nor do they come from Hell.
its all crap to me. show me a possessed person, and i will believe it.
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I don't think it's real is teems like it's just the church claiming that the person is "possesed" and that they cured her with all this fake excorcism crap. The real deal is that these "possesed" people porbably just have very severe mental problems that should REALLY be treated but the church just makes them worse with all this excorcism stuff. But besides the point the movie "the Excorcist" is still awesome.
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I really pity all of you who believe demons don't exist. They do. There is a God, There is a Devil. Even says in the Bible about demons. I saw the movie 'The Exorcism of Emily Rose' today. To tell you the truth, that movie has a lot of truth to it. Like I stated before, I know about the paranormal and I study it. Demons are real. People with mental disorders are more likely to attract demons and be possessed. Like people with Schizophrenia,Psychosis, Obsessions. I don't care if any of you believe me or not. I am a Christian. In my faith and opinion Jesus Christ is real, and so is the Devil, and other demonic forces. You all need to pick up a book called the bible and read it.
What part of my last post about how the church cannot declare someone possessed untill every doctor has given thier acceptance that it is beyond medical science did you not understand?
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you people are so thick headed. All demonic Possessions lead to death,if not caught in the early stages. Thats why demons posses people, They are evil entities (for lack of a better word) who where never given a chance at life, they are jealous of human lives and will try and brake down the will of the living and take control. Like I said demonic possession leads to death, Thats your problem if you don't want to believe. I am tired of people not believing in this or acting like people who do are nuts. YOU CANT ALWAYS PROVE EVERYTHING!. Perhaps thats why God leaves somethings unprovable. Its not meant to be proved. You just need to trust your heart and faith in the Lord.
^ note, this reply is not just meant for RJ but for all of you in general who still says it cant happen.
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However, believe it or ignore it as you will, we are all in a war. We are creatures built for war, in our hearts and minds, and we fight one every day. Depending on the one in whom you put your faith, you will either fall in battle or triumph.
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