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Should rapists be castrated?
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Syren
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It's not just a case of being unable to control their sexual urges, though. It's a warped perception of right and wrong, a need to exercise control and power over another, 'weaker' person.


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It's not just a case of being unable to control their sexual urges, though. It's a warped perception of right and wrong, a need to exercise control and power over another, 'weaker' person.


Yes. Rape, as a concept is a huge social issue. It cannot be described as a single cause of it, nor can it be simplified into ''sexual urges'' as a cause.

Why doesn't anyone says ''oh its what animals do'' when a mother kills its baby. Animals do it all the time - she can't help it. Well, then that makes it ok then.

Not only is suggesting men rape out of urge, offencive to men everywhere, it basically understands it as a natural occurance.


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Yes. Rape, as a concept is a huge social issue. It cannot be described as a single cause of it, nor can it be simplified into ''sexual urges'' as a cause.

Why doesn't anyone says ''oh its what animals do'' when a mother kills its baby. Animals do it all the time - she can't help it. Well, then that makes it ok then.

Not only is suggesting men rape out of urge, offencive to men everywhere, it basically understands it as a natural occurance.


Exactly. Men and 'uncontrollable urges' don't go hand in hand and it would be wrong to suggest this. As you said, rape occurs because of a combination of things, not just triggered by sexual urges.

So, castration of men who rape - yes or no, lils?


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ok milla, so if a dog screws a cat without its consent, is this rape? this isnt hypothetical as ive seen this happen.

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I don't think you could call that rape. Perhaps there's another word for it, but 'rape' is something one human does to another, right?

Rape is the act of intitiating involuntarily sexual acts through the use of violence, force, threat of injury, other duress, or where the victim is unable to decline due to the effects of drugs, alcohol and/or underage immaturity.

Can this be applied to animals?


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Exactly. Men and 'uncontrollable urges' don't go hand in hand and it would be wrong to suggest this. As you said, rape occurs because of a combination of things, not just triggered by sexual urges.

So, castration of men who rape - yes or no, lils?


Personaly, I am against it. Mostly because I believe that sexual urge does not have all that to do with it - castration would then be redundant (unless you see it as a punishment soley).

Men rape women using all kinds of objects, and sometimes strap on dildos. (yeah, fecked up).

So probably...no...


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Rape is the act of intitiating involuntarily sexual acts through the use of [...]force


yes smart

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Personaly, I am against it. Mostly because I believe that sexual urge does not have all that to do with it - castration would then be redundant (unless you see it as a punishment soley).

Men rape women using all kinds of objects, and sometimes strap on dildos. (yeah, fecked up).

So probably...no...


Fair enough. But as a punishment, ideal big grin

Another note, how would you see the situation if it were a paedophile? Same thing?

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ok milla, so if a dog screws a cat without its consent, is this rape? this isnt hypothetical as ive seen this happen.


Rape is a occurance within numans. You cannot apply the accepted deffinition to animals, for the obvious reasons.


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Rape is a occurance within numans.


hehehe numans

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Shush you! embarrasment


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seriously though, you're right. the definition of rape involves humans exclusively.

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seriously though, you're right. the definition of rape involves humans exclusively.


Do I get a hug? Coz, you know, that's what I said too


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Do I get a hug? Coz, you know, that's what I said too


no....you attempted to ignore me before

(notice i said 'attempted')

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seriously though, you're right. the definition of rape involves humans exclusively.


I once saw a small dog mount and penetrate a male cat (I did break it up after the initial shock/awe), the cat was growling and hissing vehemently, I doubt this was a sound of welcome to the dog. You wouldn't consider this rape?


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by principle, yes. however the definition only applies to humans which forcibly have sex with another person or animal

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I once saw a small dog mount and penetrate a male cat (I did break it up after the initial shock/awe), the cat was growling and hissing vehemently, I doubt this was a sound of welcome to the dog. You wouldn't consider this rape?
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by principle, yes. however the definition only applies to humans which forcibly have sex with another person or animal


Plus unless you speak fluent cat, you dont know if there was permission? he might have been talking dirty!


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well....yeah yes

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