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Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Beta's known to have the best control over his hammer. He rivals Thor. Though we haven't seen him do the more outrageous uses of the hammer, there are other times when we've seen him do things as Thor has, such as manipulating the EMS, using a combination of Uru hammers to travel through time, etc. Saying he can't do it is honestly ignorant, becasue it's not beyond the scope of his abilities.

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Originally posted by masterbruce
I didn't give you my opinion. I have you my reasoning. What do you disagree with it?

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Originally posted by masterbruce
Ok, let me break it down like this.

1. From my understanding, the potential of the ring is only limited by the willpower of the person controlling it, hence why Hal is so powerful since he has the greatest willpower.

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2. Willpower is directly related to confidence. The more confident you are, the more will power you have.

3. Hence, by deduction, the more confident you are, the more potential you have with the Ring.

At, this point do you disagree with any of my premises?

Now, let's use Hal as the benchmark since he's the greatest GL. Let's say his willpower is 100.

Unless you're saying Kilowog's willpower is ALSO 100 and thereby saying he's equally powerful as Hal, Kilowog would receive a boost in willpower/confidence from the second ring.

If you claim that Kilowog is the same as Hal in willpower, then my argument is moot.

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Originally posted by Desaad
I think the problem comes from the degree of "amping" we believe comes from 2 two rings versus one.

Whatever an extra ring would give would have to be very little, because all it would do is increase the perseverance and desire to win of that person. But it wouldn't artificially increase it.

That is to say, whatever that added ring does, the wielder is capable of doing totally on their own as well, in a case in which they are extremely motivated by the situation at hand.

What it comes down to, for me, is that if the universe is on the line that extra ring isn't going to make any sort of difference at all. Its only when someone is operating on a day to day basis that this is going to matter, and even then I feel like there are physical/psychological limits to will power that cannot be overcome.

I think that while Hal has a greater will power than Kilowog, its his intelligence in battle that would give him the decisive win over Kil. I think they are probably pretty close in raw will power (though Rebirth, IMHO, clearly demonstrated Hal's superiority to all of the earth-based GL's and Emerald Dawn to essentially all the Alien ones).