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Er no...Cap and DD as well...for example Cap has hit Namor so hard he has landed on his back. DD has knocked MR Hyde with a pressure point and broken a diamond absorbing man.


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alf you have this real bad habit or using wolverine low end feats against capt high end it really quite funny actaully.


also the whole you hate wolverine thing does not help your argument.

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No MA can replicate 100 class hitts if you think that you really have lsot your mind.

100 class hit would be impossiable for a street le veler aim to replicate.



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Er no...Cap and DD as well...for example Cap has hit Namor so hard he has landed on his back. DD has knocked MR Hyde with a pressure point and broken a diamond absorbing man.


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Er no...Cap and DD as well...for example Cap has hit Namor so hard he has landed on his back. DD has knocked MR Hyde with a pressure point and broken a diamond absorbing man.

hyde not that durable neevr has been


he hit the flaw diamond

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alf so you honestly belive capt and DD can hit with the force of 100 tons?


you can honestly sit here and tell me that?



if that what your syaing your more of a fan boy then I could imagin

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Originally posted by capt it up
hyde not that durable neevr has been



Hyde is 80 tons...Namor is class 100...nuff said.

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alf so you honestly belive capt and DD can hit with the force of 100 tons?


you can honestly sit here and tell me that?



if that what your syaing your more of a fan boy then I could imagin


DD cant lift a 100 tons neither can Cap but they manage to hurt bricks and class 100s using skill..get it?


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Originally posted by Alfheim
Hyde is 80 tons...Namor is class 100...nuff said.

strength does not equal durability at all

a person can be very strong, but not that durable


hyde is strong however his durability is lacking. oh and he never been listed as 80 tons or doen any thing to suggest it.



nocking namor on his back is far from hitting with 100 tons of power

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Originally posted by Alfheim
Hyde is 80 tons...Namor is class 100...nuff said.



DD cant lift a 100 tons neither can Cap but they manage to hurt bricks and class 100s using skill..get it?

yes, but your saying they can hitt with 100 ton force when they can't they can't even come close

also when has capt ever beat a 100 class character? Also don't use the midn control namor garbage with me.

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strength does not equal durability at all



BS...so Namor does not have class 100 durabilty then?


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hyde is strong however his durability is lacking. oh and he never been listed as 80 tons or doen any thing to suggest it.l


He used to lift 50 tons and has had an upgrade........so yeah that suggests he can lift 80 tons.



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nocking namor on his back is far from hitting with 100 tons of power


Well considering his muscles allow him to lift a 100 tons...you would need 100 tons of strength or something similar to knock him down....Cap uses skill.



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yes, but your saying they can hitt with 100 ton force when they can't they can't even come close



With skill..yes.

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also when has capt ever beat a 100 class character? Also don't use the midn control namor garbage with me.


Yeah Namor was mind controlled but Cap was able to stun Namor underwater! The mind control did not make him less durable....oh yeah Cap doesnt have super shrap adamantuim claws either. wink


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Originally posted by Alfheim
BS...so Namor does not have class 100 durabilty then?

Every character that’s 100 tons has different durability.

Namor has a lot of durability.

Hyde on the other hand has never shown to have any were near namor durability at all.




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He used to lift 50 tons and has had an upgrade........so yeah that suggests he can lift 80 tons.

Yet he never been shown or state with such so it pure speculation





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Well considering his muscles allow him to lift a 100 tons...you would need 100 tons of strength or something similar to knock him down....Cap uses skill.

False you only need enough strength to nock down some one of his weight. Strength has nothing to do with if you can get nocked over or not.






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With skill..yes.

Your bias and fanboy heights are amazing. You think capt hits with enough force to equal a 100 tonner im sorry, but that was the most fanboy thing I have ever heard any one utter in the last month more then even xmeat hulk garbage.



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Yeah Namor was mind controlled but Cap was able to stun Namor underwater! The mind control did not make him less durable....oh yeah Cap doesnt have super shrap adamantuim claws either. wink

No he has a shield. Also he hit the thing mind controlling namor big difference.

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Every character that’s 100 tons has different durability.

Namor has a lot of durability.



Yeah he does.


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Hyde on the other hand has never shown to have any were near namor durability at all.



No hes not as durable as Namor but he still has alot of durability because of his strength.





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Yet he never been shown or state with such so it pure speculation


Well you make a guess....somebody who could lift 50 tons has an upgrade...you give me a figure.






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False you only need enough strength to nock down some one of his weight. Strength has nothing to do with if you can get nocked over or not.


It doesnt matter how much he weighs......Namor can lift 100s of tons out of water.....THE STRNGEH OF HIS MUSCLES SHOULD STOP HIM FROM BEING KNOCKED DOWN......therefore its Caps skill that knock him down.




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Your bias and fanboy heights are amazing. You think capt hits with enough force to equal a 100 tonner im sorry, but that was the most fanboy thing I have ever heard any one utter in the last month more then even xmeat hulk garbage.


Thats because you're not listening.



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No he has a shield. Also he hit the thing mind controlling namor big difference.


Er from what I remember Cap didnt use his shield underwater..he used his fingers on his neck.


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Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah he does.





No hes not as durable as Namor but he still has alot of durability because of his strength.

Strength does not equate durability. Yes he durable. Though he at best bullet proof.







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Originally posted by Alfheim
Well you make a guess....somebody who could lift 50 tons has an upgrade...you give me a figure.

What was his upgrade? Was it stated? Also upgrade can be any were from 1 ton to 100tons.

It pure speculation unless a feat or listing proves it








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It doesnt matter how much he weighs......Namor can lift 100s of tons out of water.....THE STRNGEH OF HIS MUSCLES SHOULD STOP HIM FROM BEING KNOCKED DOWN......therefore its Caps skill that knock him down. .

That has nothing to do with it at all. It the weight of the person now damaging them is a different story.






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Thats because you're not listening.

I am listing and your still wrong.





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Er from what I remember Cap didnt use his shield underwater..he used his fingers on his neck.

It was out of water and he hit the device which caused namor to get knocked out go ask dark crawler if you like.

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Strength does not equate durability. Yes he durable. Though he at best bullet proof.


Yes it does....does Namor have the same durability as Spiderman?



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What was his upgrade? Was it stated? Also upgrade can be any were from 1 ton to 100tons.

It pure speculation unless a feat or listing proves it


Oh I see so Mr Hyde could lift 50 tons...so he gets a one ton upgrade?





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That has nothing to do with it at all. It the weight of the person now damaging them is a different story.




I am listing and your still wrong.


Right so they can lift 100 of tons but cant stop 200 pounds from knocking them over? What the f**k?




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It was out of water and he hit the device which caused namor to get knocked out go ask dark crawler if you like.


yes he knocked him out of water, but he stunned him temporarily in water.


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US agnet is an MA expert and like all good MAs they can replicate class 100 damage using skill.


Alright, Alf. You're taking this skill thing a bit too far.

Yes, MA experts can make up for strength with skill. But class 100? Hah! Nowhere near it, man.


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Alright, Alf. You're taking this skill thing a bit too far.

Yes, MA experts can make up for strength with skill. But class 100? Hah! Nowhere near it, man.


So how are they able to stun people who have class 100 strength?


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Also:

Hyde IS about class 80 in strength. Namor DOES have superhuman, class 100 durability as well.

Cap cannot come ANYWHERE CLOSE to replicating class 100 strength with his attacks. no expression


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Also:

Hyde IS about class 80 in strength. Namor DOES have superhuman, class 100 durability as well.

Cap cannot come ANYWHERE CLOSE to replicating class 100 strength with his attacks. no expression


Answer the question.

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So how are they able to stun people who have class 100 strength?


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So how are they able to stun people who have class 100 strength?


Speed and striking at weak spots.

For example I can easy lift the mass of a 45cal bullet but it hits me at the right speed I'll be knocked over.
Good martial artists also use thier opponents strength against them (a la Judo throws) and keep their opponent off balance.


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Cyber slaughters Cap.


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Speed and striking at weak spots.



Yeah but there weak points still have superhuman durability... hold on what am I talking about....yeah thats right. Thats what im saying. For example if Hercules wanted to knock out Namor he would use brute strength, if Cap wanted to do the same thing he would use skill....as I said knowledge of weak point.

My point is they can both do the same thing to Namor but in different ways, this is what I mean by Cap replicating class 100 damage.


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