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Naija boy
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But wasnt some people "doing as they normally do" the problem in the first place?

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That's what happens when people refuse to follow the rules.

He was moving/reacting at super speed, thus he has super speed.

Anyway, last chance to provide proof of or retract your previous claims before I send my PM(since the report button just draws unnecessary attention).

I have one better, let's agree to disagree....we've been civil so let's not ruin it. The thread should stay open, its a great place to learn about comics and even spice up debating skills.

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seems like your bottling it,seeing as goobers owned you.

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But wasnt some people "doing as they normally do" the problem in the first place?

no.

i could go in to more detail, but not right now...

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seems like your bottling it,seeing as goobers owned you.

that's not helping.

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no.

i could go in to more detail, but not right now...

Aye

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seems like your bottling it,seeing as goobers owned you.

The bash wasn't need, goober and I have different views so let's leave it at that.

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The bash wasn't need, goober and I have different views so let's leave it at that.

its not a bash,you seem to tell people how it is on many occasions,and when asked provide proof or evidance to back up your claims,you simply ignore it.

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its not a bash,you seem to tell people how it is on many occasions,and when asked provide proof or evidance to back up your claims,you simply ignore it.

I already did, I feel Goober has yet to prove his case so instead of dragging it out I'll let him believe whatever he wants to believe.

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I have one better, let's agree to disagree....we've been civil so let's not ruin it. The thread should stay open, its a great place to learn about comics and even spice up debating skills.

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I already did, I feel Goober has yet to prove his case so instead of dragging it out I'll let him believe whatever he wants to believe.

If you want to agree to disagree without actually discussing it or providing evidence that's fine, your opinion is your own so keep it. But if I see anymore bogus statements like these...

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Except he hasn't applied it into a battle and since when does fast reflex trasnlate to fast movement. He has good pilot reflexes which no one will deny, but as it's been explained before MA is a very different kind of animal then navigation. Besides even if he could apply reflex into battle he would still need to apply speed in order for it to be effective.

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SS has been touched by characters at a great distance already, seems that his reflex goes out the window when he isn't flying.

... that aren't accompanied by proof or a valid argument of some sort, I'll personally inform Raz and the Globals about your day to day debating tactics and let them know that you're one of the members who needs to be put under a microscope. I won't even let you know I'm going to do it next time, I'll just send the PM that I already have written up about it.

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Re: Re: Combat Speed/Reflex Contest of Top-tiers

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Overall Combat Speed

DS-Anyone who can blitz Superman is either the flash or quite uber.
Superman
Surfer
WW
Thanos
Thor

Reflexes
WW. No one in comics but a flash is beating her in this dept.
Thanos- He pwns heralds flying thru hyperspace
Superman/Surfer
DS
Thor

I actually kinda agree with this list. The only thing I would change is make Superman 1st and DS 2nd as superman as shown combat many more times then DS imo. Besides that it looks about right

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Wonder woman has so many on panel proof of being much faster then any one on this forum

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Wonder woman has so many on panel proof of being much faster then any one on this forum

Well she is a fictionally character, ofc she's faster than us.

That's not a fair comparison though. sad

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If you want to agree to disagree without actually discussing it or providing evidence that's fine, your opinion is your own so keep it. But if I see anymore bogus statements like these...

... that aren't accompanied by proof or a valid argument of some sort, I'll personally inform Raz and the Globals about your day to day debating tactics and let them know that you're one of the members who needs to be put under a microscope. I won't even let you know I'm going to do it next time, I'll just send the PM that I already have written up about it.

You define combat speed differently from mine, as I've said I don't consider SS combat speed comparable or approaching that of Supes or WW....if you want to believe otherwise then so be it. Let's not get the mods involved because no one is bashing, just accept the facts for what they are and move on....thanks.

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According to Batman, and admitted to by Superman, Diana has faster reflexes in battle than Superman does.

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Originally posted by The Great Galen
You define combat speed differently from mine, as I've said I don't consider SS combat speed comparable or approaching that of Supes or WW....if you want to believe otherwise then so be it. Let's not get the mods involved because no one is bashing, just accept the facts for what they are and move on....thanks.

As I said, as long as the claims you make are by proof we'll be fine. Believe what you want, but don't try debating it unless you're ready to provide an actual case... thanks.

Anyway, if you've given up on arguing your initial claim I guess we're done here.

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As I said, as long as the claims you make are by proof we'll be fine. Believe what you want, but don't try debating it unless you're ready to provide an actual case... thanks.

Anyway, if you've given up on arguing your initial claim I guess we're done here.

I don't think SS has combat speed, at least not superspeed anyways....so I've heard you're argument and I will respectfully disagree.

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I don't think SS has combat speed, at least not superspeed anyways....so I've heard you're argument and I will respectfully disagree.

Well just let me know if you're ever in the mood to pick up this conversation again by resuming your arguments about Surfer not having combat speed because I'm still waiting for some of my points to be addressed and will happily resume the topic with you. Just remember to have proof ready so we can have a real discussion and don't have any issues smile

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I like Fangirl's way of breaking this down...

Overall Combat Speed

Surfer
Superman
Wonder Woman
Darkseid
Thanos
Thor

Reflexes

Wonder Woman
Thanos
Superman
Surfer
DS/Thor (Not entirely sure here.)

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Thanos has been hurt by Claws.

Are you talking about when he had the Infinity Gauntlet? Or in the non-canon DC vs. Marvel? Or something else entirely? Because he wasn't injured during the former, and the latter is inadmissable.

Jan 24th, 2009 07:11 AM