cyclops still has powers when he is not exposed to yellow sunlight.. he just is depowered...
depowered is not equal to having no super powers.
and i agree that they are comparable... but there is no way to verify that they are the same.
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"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
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"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
a human exposed to sunlight.. or not... has no chance of exhibiting super powers...
cyclops can run out of juice... or be prevented from access to his powers.. just like a kryptonian...
hence mutants and kryptonians can be depowered...
a regular human can not... because they are unpowered...
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
what... cyclops gets his power from solar energy...
since when did this change.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
he absorbs all types of ambient energy. sunlight is his primary source, and it only takes a small bit of energy to open the dimensional portals in his eyes.
does anyone have scans of a depowered superman fighting?
just to get away from the argument... because most scans are gonna show a "powered" or "weakened" superman fighting.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
when he fought superboy prime at the end of infinite crisis he had no powers. same as when he fought lex at the end of up, up and away. those scans of him with those gangmembers earlier were him with no powers too.
which jla are you talking about... in jla #23 the ones i have.. he wasn't depowered in the issues i have? i don't think i have all of those other issues. do you have scans?
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
the superboy prime is a good argument..
so is the lex one...
but the gang members isn't as good... the members were reluctant to fight him... they knew he was superman and were obviously afraid to fight him... hence one of the members saying... he's just one man... even teh person with the gun was reluctant to shoot... saying that he should still try...
and the bullet scan isn't a good one too, because superman has shown before that exposure to kryptonite doesn't always have the same affect to him... sometimes he resits it back... other times.. he almost dies..
when cyclops fought the thugs, they didn't know he was a mutant... he was just another man... there was no restraint with them.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
superman is in a dream... and in it... states that his powers are fading in issue 22... wonder woman etc.. have all their powers already gone.. but superman's were still fading at the end of the issue. in the next issue..in it he gets overpowered... supposedly all his strength is gone..but this is in the dreamworld... not the real world.
until the dreamer.. michael.. dreams that superman is stronger than his enemy.. and suddenly superman is...
thank you for the reference.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
im simply trying to make the argument that some people are posting that superman stomps...
and i'm simply saying it isn't clear cut.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
i still believe superman is the superior fighter, though. scott is technically gifted, but superman is more fluid, more adaptable than scott is because he's learned from a wider range of people.
and he does have more showings of skill, sadly, because they rarely show cyclops using h2h at all.
well at this point.. i'm still going with cyclops... 6/10
there haven't been any scans yet of superman as a baseline human.. :P
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
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