Gender: Male Location: Northumberland,
United Kingdom
Have you ever had a rush from smoking a cigarette? Becuase if you have you'll know it's a possitive feeling, It's a buzz, nicotine increases dopamine levels.
Not medically possitive obviously but it is a buzz.
Exactly, it's an illusory rush. I never said there wasn't a perceived (KEY WORD) effect in the eyes of the smoker, I said an ACTUAL enhancement was illusory.
You think it's positive because smoking has degraded your health and made you need nicotine to the point that getting it seems positive.
It's not actually, though.
It's like a man pushing you in front of an on-coming car and then dragging you out of the way. Sure, it seems like him being there was a good thing to save you, but if he didn't push you in the first place you wouldn't have needed rescuing.
He doesn't smoke, yet he commences to lecture smokers/former smokers on the immediate effect smoking has on the human body.
He's funny like that.
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Either debate me or don't, but don't sit there like a coward and start doing that annoying cheerleading thing you do, especially after you've just expressed displeasure with my posts and points. That's just silly. Be a man.
You don't need to smoke to scientifically know what factually happens to the body when you do it.
It's called science, RJ.
I've never been hit by a car, I've never had cancer. I know what happens to the body when both occur.
Gender: Male Location: Northumberland,
United Kingdom
But I'm not a smoker. So cigarettes have pretty much only a possitive effect on me. I smoke maybe 2-3 cigarettes a year. The medical problems from that are negligible.
All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
Gender: Male Location: Northumberland,
United Kingdom
It can't be said that smoking 2-3 cigarettes a year will have any negative medical effects, there is simply no evidence to support it. I am not going to be made out to be in the wrong because I rarely smoke. I don't even drink more than a couple of pints a week. As far as any kind of drug taking is concerned I am well within normal limits. Even if I wasn't it's no big deal. Life is for living.
Lasting or not, it has negative effects on your lungs.
Of course life is for living, dude. That's not my point. I actually believe anyone should be allowed, legally, to take any substance they desire. It's none of my business or anyone else's, so long as they're not unwillingly infringing on anyone. I don't think jail or prison is a place for someone just because they took a substance.
Gender: Male Location: Northumberland,
United Kingdom
But if it doesn't last where is the issue? Unless it causes me to collapse down dead at the time of smoking then surelly it's a non-issue. It's not going have had any noticible negative effect in a months time or there after.
Nicotine is an addictive drug. It causes changes in the brain that make people want to use it more and more.
Nicotine Effects on Body
When a person smokes a cigarette, the body reacts instantly to the chemical nicotine in the smoke. The nicotine in the smoke is quickly engrossed into the blood and starts affecting the brain within 7 seconds. It affects the entire body. Nicotine causes a short-term increase in blood pressure, heart rate and the flow of blood from the heart. It also causes the arteries to narrow.
It also acts on the nerves that control respiration to change breathing patterns. Nicotine is baneful; in fact one drop of purified nicotine on the tongue will kill a person.
A few puffs of a cigarette can consequence in dizziness, headache, nausea, coughing and gagging, abdominal cramps, and possibly vomiting or weakness that the person must develop a tolerance for, if they wish to continue smoking.
To addicted users, nicotine triggers both stimulant and calming effects. It's an established nicotine truth that it is a major hazard factor for heart disease and stroke.
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Yes, there's no ENHANCING buzz, there is only degrading and then the illusory perception that you are getting a high, when you are not. "To ADDICTED users.", key point. Not "To everyone.", thus making the point true, but to ADDICTED users. Thus, my point. It creates an illusory high to those addicted, when in actuality there's no high. There's only the pretense of a high created by the substance making you feel worse first.
"the person must develop a tolerance for".
Why? Because then once it's tolerated, your standard health level is worse, and the cigarette makes you feel "high", when you're not.
None of what you posted contradicts what I am saying. It proves it. There's no "effect" from a standard level.
What's awesome is that you tried acting like you were done, that I was the one banging on, then you went away to scramble something together in hope and faith, only to repeat something that's been said by Spooney.
It's nice how you're always trying to earn my respect and appear to be on my level, despite the constant denial of that, but you're not and won't ever be. I don't mean that in a bad way, just advice that might save you time.
Normally your boy might try to save you if asked, but he's got me on ignore. So, out of luck, aren't you? Unless he reads my quoted parts.
Nicotine has an effect on the human body. This is the claim I made earlier, the claim you denied me, the claim I just proved to all.
The "buzz" argument is between you and spoon. But for the record, the buzz is caused by a chemical reaction. Pwned.
Your respect? Nice, I pwn the shit outta you and you think I have a crush on you Rest assured you are nothing to me, a mere bug on the sole of my boot. And you just got squished, *****.
One more time:
Nicotine Effects on Body
When a person smokes a cigarette, the body reacts instantly to the chemical nicotine in the smoke. The nicotine in the smoke is quickly engrossed into the blood and starts affecting the brain within 7 seconds. It affects the entire body. Nicotine causes a short-term increase in blood pressure, heart rate and the flow of blood from the heart. It also causes the arteries to narrow.
See? Effects, addict or no. and it is NOT illusory. It is a chemical reaction. Pwned.
So in closing, I claimed nicotine has an effect on the human body. You cried bullshit. I just proved you wrong. Have a nice day
Epic pwn.
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It's all illusory and I explained why with your own point.
YOU mentioned buzz first, so no, it's not between Spoony and I. It's funny how you go off, though. Look, the sooner you admit you're constantly after my friendship and/or respect, the sooner it'll stop bugging you. I know it, you know it.
As for your clear joy at your belief that you've "pwned" me; a life goal I'm sure. RJ, if I gave you a list of weaknesses, transformed into Superman and had you give me a kryptonite enema, there would be enough ability in my pinkie to handle you and your debates for the duration of your life cycle. It's just not the natural order of things for you to "pwn" me.
It's also remarkably sad that someone of your age is still struggling, and failing to overcome and "pwn" someone more than a decade his junior. You can deny it all you want, but I don't get why there's this persistent, if subconscious, chase for my approval and respect.
Really, it used to be flattering but now it's just annoying. Hence why every time I bring it up, you snap and use smilies. That's clearly me not being anything to you. Mhm.
I suppose you speaking about me on the phone, off forum, was you not caring also. Just accept it and be at peace with it.
I really hate doing this, because you're clearly so happy with yourself, but I feel I must. I hoped you'd notice this flaw before making an ass of yourself and stop posting, but you didn't.
Read my first post.
"At least use something with an effect*. One where the effect** is preferably not bad health.".
I implied the points.
*My point was of "effect" having the meaning of "high". That effect/high is ILLUSORY, so I said nicotine does not have one, because it don't. It's an illusion.
**My acknowledgement that a LITERAL effect is in existence.
I will totally concede that, looking back, that wording is incredibly murky and for that it's my duty to apologise. That does not change the fact that it is clearly there.
On the flipside, I always cover my bases and that's why you will never, ever be able to trump me so long as there's air in my lungs.
Now, you'll try to stagger to your feet, fight back and pick something out of my post despite this clarification. Then, I'll whoop you down again. So, get on with it.
Funny and hypocritical though! "I don't wanna go round and round with you, seize the last word, you need it....UNLESS I SPEND TIME GOOGLING MY ASS OFF IN HOPES OF A REASON TO PROVE MYSELF TO HIM.".
I mentioned "buzz", it was only when I was drinking and I never claimed it had that effect on everyone. Try again.
Read this again:
Nicotine Effects on Body
When a person smokes a cigarette, the body reacts instantly to the chemical nicotine in the smoke. The nicotine in the smoke is quickly engrossed into the blood and starts affecting the brain within 7 seconds. It affects the entire body. Nicotine causes a short-term increase in blood pressure, heart rate and the flow of blood from the heart. It also causes the arteries to narrow.
It also acts on the nerves that control respiration to change breathing patterns. Nicotine is baneful; in fact one drop of purified nicotine on the tongue will kill a person.
A few puffs of a cigarette can consequence in dizziness, headache, nausea, coughing and gagging, abdominal cramps, and possibly vomiting or weakness that the person must develop a tolerance for, if they wish to continue smoking.
To addicted users, nicotine triggers both stimulant and calming effects. It's an established nicotine truth that it is a major hazard factor for heart disease and stroke.
Chemical reaction, dude. NOT illusory. Got it?
Take your medicine, babe.
BTW, nice ramble
Whup away, this is what I see from you:
Thank you for playing, good night
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I applied it, you mentioned it first. What's your point? You brought buzz up because that's what we were discussing, effect/buzz.
Continuing to post a piece of text that I've already countered, using said piece of text, won't do anything but make you look really silly. This is including the fact that I countered it in the very post you quoted:
See? All we're going to end up doing is pasting, and mine will be repeats of countering yours.
This isn't aiding your cause to get my respect, it's hindering it. Really. You're never gonna get respect from me by acting like a baby, RJ. This "fun" attitude you display might work on the hardcore jailbait that comprises your sexual prey, but I see it as immaturity and it's honestly dry. If you can't debate without slapping YouTube videos consisting of stupidity all over your posts, then don't expect me to afford you my time.
So, unless you have anything new to present that counters my point about effect/high, please save your time.
DAMN you're a sad little man. It's like you're standing over the dead body, smoking gun in hand, and still you're all "I didn't do it!!!"
Have at it chief, deep down you know I spanked your frail little bottom blue.
This is the part where you claim I have some sorta hetero man crush on you, that I want to be you. I'd rather be violated by a bear or eat a bullet.
Buh bye.
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Apr 11th, 2010 02:04 AM
Shaun of the Dead.
