Yeah because Logan should be much higher then the rest in just Pure Skill....LOL(Me thinks someone is sore about that)
My rankings is just on skill. No power sets/healings/SSS. Heck most of the time I defend/debate only Steve and Daredevil and yet on my pure skill rankings even I know Steve isn't the most skilled compared to the others, nor DD as I put Shang above even him.
On performance and "power set", I would have Logan first....Cap second. For the Marvel side anyways.
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Logan's placement isn't even the worst thing about your list and your DC one is almost bad as the Marvel one.
Shang-Chi and Zaran have both said, or strongly suggest that Captain America is more skilled than Shang-Chi, and Captain America has told Iron Fist to his face that he (Steve) was more skilled than him (Iron Fist). Even without his powers Steve is in the top spot or tied for it.
Shang-Chi is more skilled than Daredevil. Ironfist is more skilled than Daredevil. Captain America is more skilled than Daredevil. Elektra is more skilled than Daredevil. Wolverine is more skilled than Daredevil. Daredevil is more skilled than Black Panther.
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Wrong Zaran said Cap is the greater "fighter". And that I agree with. Cap's power set thanks to the SSS/A-list fighter does indeed make him the greater fighter in my humble opinion. Again srank learn to read.
No he told Ironfist.....Mantis level is not enough. For obvious reasons.
Wolverine would be lucky to be above Black Panther in the pure skill.
Shang and Daredevil have never fought but I do rank Shang above him anyways in pure skill. Danny not so much since there fights have ended in stalemates and DD having the edge in other encounters against Danny.
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Semantics, better fighter means more skilled. No one says better fighter when they really mean "stronger and faster" it simply doesn't have those connotations. Nice attempt to twist things though... I guess.
And the obvious implication of that statement is that Cap is more skilled than Iron Fist.
Wolverine has thrashed Shang-Chi, got Daredevil in a full nelson in three panels, stalemated Stick and told Captain America he was better than him before almost killing poor ol' Steve with a pressure point. He's better than Panther, he's better than Daredevil.
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What's funny I remember reading some idiot marvel staffers rank martial artists in pure skill. Those marvel staffers were morons but even they were not that dumb to put Logan as number 1 in pure skill.
LOL
And that doesn't speak that much for those staffers either.
Last edited by Daredevil1 on May 4th, 2011 at 05:07 PM
Better fighter means more skilled. What do you think it means? Christ.
Apparently he is according to your definition of the word where better fighter somehow means "superior physically specimen."
If a character is a "better fighter" then they are better a fighting, if they are better a fight then they are more skilled at fighting, if they are more skilled at fighting then they are a more skilled fighter. Stop eating lead paint.
No need to ignore Wolverine's powers, outside of the Cap one they didn't come into play in any of the instances I mentioned. He was just plain better.
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He's the only Marvel MA who has successfully executed a pressure point effectively in battle against Captain America, he is the only Marvel MA who has effortlessly pawned Shang-Chi and he has Karnak level pressure point feats. Wolverine has the best feats of application of raw skill of any street level MA in Marvel or DC.
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None of what you said is relevant. When someone says that Silva is the number one P4P fighter in the world, they mean is he the most skilled fighter in MMA. That's what it means, better fighter means more skilled, it doesn't mean stronger, it doesn't mean faster, it means better fighter.
Captain America is a more skilled fighter than Shang-chi, Daredevil or Iron Fist.
No. If Character A is more skilled but another Character B is stronger, Character B isn't considered a better fighter, he is considered stronger. The word fighter has no connotations of strength, it is about about fighting ability/prowess which are just synonyms for skill.
And yet he is. Would you like me to help you find your local comic shop so you can pick up some back issues and be knowledgeable the next time you want to post?
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