Your "good points" means that we only take sentry's high end feats into account and wherever sentry has a low showing blame it on "bendis sentry". Just below you are trying to use the same double standard, mind you that showing was also of "bendis sentry". Your theory on paper sounds quite good but if we inspect it closely it falls apart.
Make your mind, once you say that sentry displayed more power when he was not restrained by "bendis force" and now you're claiming that he displayed more powers when he was normal. FYI genis was playing with him and your world shredding was just a hyperbole as captain america was in the vicinity of that attack and was completely fine.
"normal" sentry created a werewolf in the palm of his hands (via the same powers) a few panels later; that IS usable by mod ruling and clearly and unmistakingly shows a fully normal/voidless sentry fully aware of his newly understood powers. that panel & feat,
regardless of the brevity, contradicts your "only the void can do that" rhetoric.
btw, sentry (NO void) also beat the absorbing man through molecular manipulation.
Last edited by wildernesss on Dec 8th, 2011 at 01:49 PM
Okay abhilegend, listen now - I will confront you with few scans and facts now:
1. Yes, it was Bendis who was restraining the Sentry, since he needed him at lower power levels to have him as an actualy Avengers member, without being too powerful and soloing everyone on the battlefield in two seconds, basically something the Sentry would be capable off, and for that he exploited Sentry's mental instability vastly. He wrote the Sentry often out of character. Sentry was supposed to be the very first superhero on the Marvel Earth, more experienced and powerful then anyone else and in Bendis take, he had to ask Norman Osborn if killing is a good thing? Come on...
2. I'm not saying that Bendis is a bad writer, but he did some weird stuff, to make the story-telling easier for him, or to boost the characters he likes. For example, Bendis is in love with black people. In the Ultimate Universe, he turned Nick Fury into a black guy, killed off Peter Parker and made a black kid the New Spider-Man. In 616 he gave Luke Cage the leadership over the Avengers and boosted him up with feats and in real-life Bendis adopted 2 black children. Right ...
Besides that he kicked Ms. Marvel out of the Avengers once and put Spider-Woman in, simply because he is more familiar with the characters. He writes the characters often out of character and even though Moonstone for example was always a little bit slutty, her entire meaning during the Dark Avengers was to sleep with nearly the entire team. There was nothing else she did. We all know that Bendis tends to have good, but totally similar dialogues. No one is different, he ignores stuff in the past and so on.
3. Other writers also had different takes on the Sentry with Paul Jenkins being the first one, who turned the Sentry into something more then a regular powerhouse. His Sentry was so powerful, that he was the only one who was able to go toe on toe with the Void and defeat the Void.
Pak had to depower the Sentry vastly and let him be unstable for the fight with World War Hulk. Sentry totally ignored the destruction caused by the Hulk and stayed at home, until the moment where he had to enter the battle, since Hulk was threatening the heroes.
Sentry lost the control over his powers and destroyed few city blocks and caused damage in billions. That is actually being very unstable for a character who is supposed to be a great superhero. And with that mental instability his powerlevel output wasn't that huge. When he released his power, he didn't cause any "one million exploding suns" near damage, but all that was still more then enough to have the upper hand against the Hulk from the very first beginning.
Sentry bullrushed the Hulk through few buildings. When Hulk was attacking him mercylessly Sentry didn't block the punches, but took them all and talked to the Hulk. When he was done talking, he started punching the crap out of the Hulk, who then was in huge disadvantage. Then Hulk managed to fight back and Sentry continued talking, while not bothering about the punches. In the end he was again the one who was bitchslapping the Hulk, who was not able to defend himself. Hulk was restrained under Sentry's power output and his warbounds had to free the Hulk, who got mad and continued fighting the Sentry.
You probably know about the outcome, where they both reverted back and Bruce knocked out Robert.
Pak was not the only one, who acknowledged Sentry's vast powerlevel and had to tone him down for few of Sentry's fights.
Even Bendis did it right during one of the fights. For example the Avengers VS Collective fight.
Even there the writer had to tone done the Sentry, who was lying in his bed, unable to go out because of his agoraphobia, while the Collective killed nearly entire Alpha Flight and threatened thousands of innocents.
Captain America then yelled at Robert and ordered him to enter the battle, what Robert then did.
And an unstable Sentry was enough to stalemate the Collective for quite a while, who killed Alpha Flight, toyed with the Avengers and even easily overpowered Binary, who is a planet buster at best.
To be honest, it was not the best showing for the Sentry, since the Collective was inexperienced with his powers, a reason why Sentry lasted that long in the first place, but I also already mentioned that Sentry was not in his prime either.
However, there were other writers, like for example Nicieza who was written the Sentry as actually very powerful. He too probably understood the concept of the character, since there was not a single moment which hinted out that Sentry was in a weak condition, so he let the Sentry go full out and now you should look very carefully at the scans and also read my words:
On this scan you see them starting with the fight and Sentry is unsure about it, since he does not want to harm the planet. Photon then teleports them away.
You see them fighting in the Microverse and you see the golden sun-like energy escaling, Sentry's power release. They start destroying the entire area while fighting and still holding back, since Captain America is down there aswell.
Photon then teleports Captain America away and Sentry and Photon are totally alone in the subatomic microverse and start releasing more power, while they're fighting.
And now pay good attention at the scan. Do you see what is happening? The first small panel shows huge amounts of Sentry's power being visible while he is in a microverse, which is subatomic, as you can judge it by the atoms and the molecules. The second small pannel shows their exact position - the position of the microverse, which is near Iron Man's armor. You see Sentry's golden energy being visible in the real universe, while he and Photon are in the Microverse.
It's basically ...
Universe = Microverse (but in microscopic) ... of course we don't know how huge the microverse exactly was, but through the fact that we can see Sentry's power in the regular universe, while he is in a microverse, is pretty damn huge and puts him far above a planet buster. Far above.
In the next scan you see Photon teleporting Sentry and himself out of the microverse, out of the spot where they were on Iron Man's armor and crushing Iron Man in the process and you see Photon's power display, which is crystallish blue, while Sentrys was golden-fiery and was visible from the microverse.
Then you see Photon teleporting Sentry back to a microverse again and stating, that it will be too late when he gets out of the microverse. Can Sentry escape out of the microverse all by himself? Or is Photon going to release him, when they're gone? After that display, I don't even think that something like that matters anymore, since you saw Sentry's power level now.
Also basically the very first time where he had the chance to release a serious amount of energy, while in the past there was never an instance where he could have been able to release that much power, without destroying the Earth, since he was always an Earth bound hero.
Edit: I would also like to point out that I don't see how Photon was exactly playing with him. What I saw in the scans was that Sentry's power release was so vast, that it was visible from the real world, while you couldn't see much of Photons power release. In the next panel Photon teleported them both back and BFR'd the Sentry. Is being able to BFR someone toying with him, for you? I don't think so, since that doesn't automatically mean, that person 1 is more powerful then person 2.
If you would try to bring in a good argument, then you would say that Sentry didn't release that much energy, but that Photon shunted it away to defend himself and that's why it was visible in the real world, because Sentry's energy got redirected between the universes, but that would be speculation from your side, since we could clearly see it otherwise.
To me it looked like Sentry gained the upper hand, since most of his power was visible and then Photon teleported him away.
Last edited by Enzeru on Dec 8th, 2011 at 02:24 PM
ok, but the information provided by those storylines retroactively confirm that the nature of his powers are light/molecular based; that's how sentry was able to resurrect his wife, bypass dr doom's armor defences,create clothing (i.e. sentry costume) out of nothing or bob's normal clothes, or create hard light void constructs subconsciously. feats from the molecule man arc & siege may be unusable, but the information within it is extremely usable.
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