I'd disagree, in his own series his feats toned down a lot towards the end. Since the reboot, Clark isn't the center of DC's universe as he once was (although he's still arguably the most powerful on Earth) and looks more vulnerable aswell. It's only in the last few months he's really been producing high herald level feats with any kind of regularity.
He was only toned down in the Krypton series by Robinson, and even then he was taking on teams of people.
The reason he's seemed more vulnerable, imo, is because either a) it was in Action, when he was still growing, or b) because since the reboot he's been faced with a consistently higher level of villain.
Tyrant doesn't job like Superman, getting ko'd by a Predator esque Extradimensional Alien because he's too quick and then go out and tag the Flash or tank lunar collisions in battles with the likes of Helspont.
Going from struggling with Street Levelers like random mutants, and then go out and cut a moon in half at 2.5 times the speed of light because he found out Obama Luthor is president, or containing a black hole by grabbing it like it doesn't even have an event horizon.
I meant it as in his power REALLY fluctuates, and it can be attributed to his mental blocks. Don't blame me you took it offensively to one of your Tyrannical Idols.
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Last edited by KillaKassara on Apr 1st, 2013 at 06:42 AM
Yeah, a few years ago he gets sent into a solar coma by Doomsday, then a little bit ago he uses the Flash's super power to overcome a far stronger Doomsday who had Heat Vision of his own.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
So one (PIS filled) arc in like 3 decades that doesn't apply to current Superman? Also what about the times he has gone all out and not inexplicably become more powerful than his peers several times over?
Read a comic, you tool. It's clear that you don't know what the hell you're talking about, spouting inane bullshit like that. Struggling with street-levelers? That's an obsolete argument made by pre-pubescents on comicvine.
I mean, there's a reason that at their averages, Tyrant is placed in a whole tier above Superman in the KMC comic forums. I am also guessing that you've never heard of DP Tyrant. Again, read a comic for a change. It'll benefit you greatly the next time you post on this forum.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Okay, your assertion is that I'm uninformed for claiming that Superman fluctuates more than Tyrant between jobbing specifically and high end feats, then you reference a stronger depiction of Tyrant?
How exactly does that counter what I said?
In any case, that's one example of a high end feats, versus typical old Tyrant, Superman is actively portrayed lower than usual and higher than usual.
I believe this is because the author's attempts at trying not to overpower him...it's not like they haven't created a shit storm of weaknesses specially for the Man of Steel.
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DP Tyrant stands for "Depowered" Tyrant, smartass. Clearly, just going by the title alone, it's a stronger version of Tyrant. LOL at you talking about jobbing when a mod(who also happens to be a Superman fan himself btw) rectified your obsolete pre-pubescent argument about street-levelers.
If you were anywhere close to as smart as you pretend to be, maybe you'd know.
What example are you talking about? Take all their showings into account, including both high-end feats and low showings, Tyrant still comes out ahead by a significant margin.
Get back to me when you yourself are sure about what you're trying to convey.
Just because you misinterpreted the first comment you quoted, and what I was getting at in the first place, doesn't mean I don't know what I'm trying to say.
I'm not averaging out low and high end feats...I am saying that Superman's high end feats, the ones that have been claimed in this very thread to be absurd showings, space time shattering strikes, strikes that take apart planets, numerous ftl showings, tanking a super nova, tanking the Mageddon Warhead...can be attributed to the epitome of Superman when the stakes are highest and there are no mental blocks...
Thus I could make an argument that discards his low end feats.
So how does Tyrant's feats stack up against the aforementioned Superman feats while powered by the Heralds?
Are we using depowered Tyrant, Stoic?
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Last edited by KillaKassara on Apr 1st, 2013 at 08:52 AM
I was talking about it in a general sense, that is one averaged out all or most of their showings, then Tyrant still comes out ahead by a significant margin. Superman at his highest showings has done stuff that is hardly beyond the scope of the power of a skyfather level character, a tier Tyrant is easily capable of belonging in.
I am not sure how you could do that. Unless the same standard is being applied to Tyrant as well.
Read the comics that Tyrant has appeared in, or browse his respect thread. I am not sure what you mean by "powered by Heralds" as well, because Tyrant's power source is derived from the biosphere of every (life-sustaining)planet in the universe.
I am fairly sure that even DP Tyrant will come out ahead.
Edit: Also, if you have me on ignore then honor the function and stop playing peek-a-boo.
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