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Galan007
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't want Citizen Steel to be operating at 50% power, I'm just telling you what was printed in the comic, you can use that to reach any conclusions that you want.
I'm simply using your opinions to reach a conclusion-- a conclusion I cannot agree with, mind you.

Your stance is that at 50% power, CS is >> Superman(which means he is >> Thor, by proxy.) Thus at 100% power, CS would logically have to be more than 2x more powerful than Superman and/or Thor-- thus he should be on par with Kurse by default(unless this is the version of Kurse that Beyonder amped twice.)

...Do you see why it's hard for me to accept that the suit dampens his power by 1/2? That opens up the door for CS to potentially be far stronger than ANY herald or trans-tier character in DC-- which I simply don't believe he is.

But hey, if you want to boost him to those levels, then far be it from me to stop you. wink

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I didn't say it weakened him, I said it damaged his artificial body, which it did:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/161...022-05.jpg.html

No, that's not what I said. The explosion seemed to negatively affect him, that's the only explanation I can come up with.
Fast-forward a few pages(when CS began punching him), and none of that damage still appears to exist on Gog's person:
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Fast-forward a few more pages(when Superman pulled his head off), and none of that damage still appears to exist on Gog's person:
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Gog sustained 'damage' from Atom's attack, healed in the span of a single page(even his clothing was repaired), and was floored by CS. Easy, right? smile


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Galan007
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Originally posted by TheGodKiller
So referencing such a low-end showing in a thread in which he's being pitted against a guy that greatly rivals one of Marvel's top high heralds in terms of pure strength isn't indicative of comparative analysis with high heralds?

Please, 280000 pounds per square inch isn't even worth mentioning when discussing the physical capabilities of high herald bricks. You have provided other feats, like the showing against Gog which, despite the disputing that some of the Kurse-supporters are raising, is a fairly decent showing in itself but lets not pretend that resisting a billion pascals of pressure/tensile stress is an impressive feat w.r.t high herald strongmen.

Plus, your selective preference of what counts in your scans and what doesn't is also damning, seeing how you dismiss the notion that the alloy skin should restrict CS's strength by at least half.
More ranting?

Again: I didn't post the suit info as a comparison to any other character-- just as a point of reference regarding the type of forces CS has to exert against the suit just to dampen his strength enough to not kill everything he touches. And everyone(aside from you) has agreed that said forces ARE impressive. That's said, your ranting is completely unsubstantiated and moreover irrational.

Like I told Rage: if you are of the opinion that the suit decreases CS's strength by half, then you'd better be ready to accept the notion that CS is more than 2x stronger than Superman and Thor by default. Why? Because CS "@ 50% power" > Gog>KC Superman>mainstream Superman. In fact, by this logic CS would be more like 3-4x more powerful than Superman and Thor.

You guys are inflating his power with this opinion much more than any of his supporters have. thumb up


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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yeah, Kurse is such a pussy, he was only beating up this guy:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...stialArmor1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...stialArmor2.jpg

http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rag...eated6.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rag...eated7.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rag...eated8.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rag...eated9.jpg.html

I'm sorry Kingdom Come Superman turned into an ineffective pussy, I really did love that comic and interpretation of Superman.


Namor was doing that just recently alongside that failure colossusnaut. Without a hammer to boot. I can post several showings from Superman much more impressive than that.

What's the point of showing of an amped Thor's beating of Thanosi here?

Getting beaten by a more powerful being is not being a pussy. Ask Thor about the beatings from the Hulk about it.


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