As said I disagree, all the feats you want to be seen as awesome happened in the pocket-dimension, for the last time, the rules there are not the same as the rules of the main universe for all we know. It might be even all in Kons head. We will see.
You are making this feat bigger than it is, Superboy is no abstract being nor a skyfather, don't try to push him there.
That is you wishful thinking nothing more tbh. You can try and make up scenarios but they will only work if we see it done to someone like Superman, MM etc. This is as said a nice feat, but the scale is small, as small as a pocket.
I don't need to prove a negative.
Superman says it, you planned all of this along. So yes, he played the game and wanted the events to happen the way it happend.
Sure if I H'el needed energy, why waste his own, and obviously he needed different forms of them. So he can safe his because he would need them. Makes sense doesn't it? At least we agree that WW and Supergirl had their hands in the destruction too, as seen in the scans.
So you say it yourself, it can contain the energy which is completly different from being destroyed by less. Kon has not more power than the sun. Take a nuclear reactor, holds a sh1tload of energy, still you need less than this to break it.
Now you would just need to prove he can amp his strength to benchpress earthweight for 5 days or to stop a ship of brainiacs size. I will wait ^^.
He can and has been hurt by less btw, supergirl is not Superman.
What scans, you said it yourself, they fight for the control of the body.
I am still polite to you and i still disagree, my interpretation differes. And yes, I noticed this agenda as soon as you started posting in superboy related threads. You like him, that's ok.
there are beings more powerful than Superman, take Darkseid for example. Superboy is not among them though and it's very doubtful he will be.
You should learn one thing. You once said that my opinion is my opinion and I shouldn't pretend it is the truth, follow your own adivce, we disagree, that is nothing bad. Your interpretation is in my opinion wrong, yours differ, well that's ok but don't pretend you know it better, you don't and only future comics will show it.
You behave like Enzeru right now btw. I would change this.
So Superboy is a Mid Herald, now maybe even a High Herald, he needs more fights and more feats, he is no trans, skyfather or abstract, don't try to make him into one. Thanks.
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Yeah no, not going to do this dance again since you're too stubborn to concede when you should and I already wasted nearly two days dissecting posts.
Also, I never said Kon-El was trans or skyfather. This whole time the only one I claimed that could be above herald was the merged Kon-El/Jon Kent. That's different than just Kon-El. The Star Chamber feat while impressive is not something that would put Kon-El above any herald.
If you're still going to pretend that Superboy #32~34 is all in the mind when we know with 100% certainty that it wasn't. Otherwise, Kon-El wouldn't have actually come back and he would still be a herald for the Oracle then I honestly have no idea what you're doing. Hard headed is not a strong enough word for this.
Why should I. Superboy has done nothing that was at the level you want him to be. He has no feats against opponents, nothin to suggest he can do what you think.
But as said, agree to disagree.
I am rather inclined to wait and see what happens with Superboy before making bold claims. It happened in his mind and in the pocket-dimension, how this correlates, well we will see.
But the feats in this event are not applicable to the normal universe, first he has to show that he can do it outside this pocket-dimension.
So chill, accept people who disagree with you and see what happens .
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Unless we suddenly find out in Superboy: Future's End Kon-El didn't actually come back, and Jon didn't actually sacrifice himself to defeat himself (damn it, time-travel) destroying the pocket dimension in the process; I don't comprehend how your theory could hold any water at all.
Superboy #33 differentiates when Kon-El and Jon Kent are in their mind, and when they are not kicking arse and changing their friends into alternate versions of themselves. It's all one big white space when it's in their mind.
And most important of all, we will see how powerful Superboy really is, with real feats in a complete universe, not some weak sauce pocket-dimension and a weak mind.
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I wouldn't call it "weak sauce" considering that the merged Kon-El/Jon Kent's pocket universe they created was powerful enough to drag countless different Superboys into it from other universes, and in it the entity was shown basically to be a reality warper able to alter a person's history to make them into whatever it wanted.
It also shows good range and that it basically could connect to anywhere it needed to under the Kon-El/Jon Kent entity's duress.
So, there you have it. Its an outside power up and isn't considered a normal powers of a character.
Not really.
They were just fused in mind. Its not their powers were stacked or universe creating power ups.
Repeating yourself again? Seems like a pattern here.
Coming from you? Not really surprised.
Of course. When the said pocket universe isn't created by the entity, only feat worth mentioning. And that pocket universe was just around a NOWHERE facility. It wasn't even that big.
You are?
Yup. In comics its everything.
In his created reality, it is. I don't agree with it, but that doesn't changes the work of that writer.
In his work, it isn't. In real world he is.
You've got that backward kid.
Nice to meet you santa.
In a world created by the writer, he is the absolute. He creates the rules, not you. If he says a cow can fly, then you have to belive it.
Nope.
I don't give a damn about what you think or like. How's that about honesty?
No really? You seem pretty angry kid.
Not really. The merged Superboy was powerful enough to beat some random Superboys. That's it. The universe creating was due to a time paradox. You know who else created new timelines each time he traveled in time? H'el.
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"created an alternate reality". I'm pretty sure H'el wasn't a universal being.
He destroyed the chamber, has nothing to do with how powerful the energy inside was.
Because he was the only one who had the power set to disrupt the force field. Its like saying Invisible Woman is more powerful than Hulk because she can make force field and he can't.
You mean where Superman thought he was powerless and was caught by surprise? Yeah, superman can get punched and get tossed around if caught by surprise.
Supergirl is pretty much worthless now.
Yeah, she is worthless alright. A weaker clone of superman almost killed her.
Superman isn't an ordinary kryptonian. But hey, let's see their performances against H'el. I see Superboy getting wrecked along with Teen Titans and then Superman singlehandedly bringing H'el to his knees.
No, its not a feat of the entity either. When they combined as a superboy a temporal wave craeted that pocket universe.
H'el was creating alternate realities by time-traveling.
The Kon-El/Jon Kent being was doing so not by time-travel. We did not see time-travel. We did not see that it had to time-travel. What we know that when the universe tried to erase Jon Kent in order to fix the temporal paradox of his existence. It created a pocket universe, sealed the rest of Earth-2 off away from it, and that it could drag Superboys from other universes into it. That it could also scan a person's possible alternate iterations and make them real on a whim.
Where do we see the Kon-El/Jon Kent creature time-travel, like at all?
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