I believe morals predate religions, religions are man-made after all
I also know there's Atheist with morals
I also know there's Theist with virtually no morals who routinely go against their own claimed beliefs. eg The Catholic pedo priest, the Mormon CEO who embezzles, the Evangelical who condemns homosexuality in one breath and then breaks several Leviticus laws in another
Nah. Morals are decided by people, cos we make them and they're subject to change. eg At one point in America it was moral to own slaves, then it wasn't when enough people thought "hey, Black people are people too and I wouldn't want to be a slave myself, so I won't enslave others."
I was going to say something to that effect. It has varied in place and time and is anything but "objective." For example, modern Christians choose to ignore a lot of the barbaric bullshit that would have gotten you burned alive or otherwise executed if you didn't follow in the middle ages.
And they have the nerve to hijack morality and claim they're "objective."
"Religious morality" is a misnomer, because religious moralities are not moral systems. They provide no frameworks for solving moral problems. They are simply a list of moral dictates, allegedly from a supreme being. That means that they are completely arbitrary to the will of that being, and if He decided that something we all agree is immoral was moral tomorrow, then it would be. There is nothing objective about that.
Another book, “Secularism: The Basics,” out this month from Georgetown University professor Jacques Berlinerblau, focuses on political secularism and argues that while Americans may be growing less religious, their government and courts are becoming less secular.
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Emma Koonse Wenner, religion editor for Publishers Weekly, said there is a bit of a boom happening on the topic. There are so many people who have left traditional religious structures but are still interested in the “spiritual but not religious” genre, she said, that PW now does a regular feature on the topic of the “nones” — those Americans who tell pollsters they have “no religion.” That group has swelled from 16 percent of the country in 2007 to 29 percent today, Pew Research said last month.
Do you worry that the destruction of religion will leave a psycho-spiritual vacuum that people could fill with something worse ? Or do you think any alternatives to traditional religious thinking is superior ?
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